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AMC Blue Engine Paint

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Anyone have a link to some AMC blue engine paint you've had personal experience with? I am going to coat my engine in it, was thinking Eastwood since they're local to me but I've never used their engine paint and it only comes in quarts. Was planning on using their engine primer too which gets good reviews. Any tips on how/what to use to prep the engine before primer too? I've power washed it several times with Gunk de-greaser but I'm sure that hasn't gotten all of it, and that it has some residue from that too. It also has not been run since that washing so nothing residual has burned off either.

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I had heard that Seymour was the original supplier of the metallic blue AMC engine paint, so that's what we used on the 401 in my dad's wag.
TSP with a scrub brush and hot water will get any residue off. Dry with compressed air.
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Seymour EN-66
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fulsizjeep wrote:Seymour EN-66
This is what I've used. I can't say how close it is to original, never having seen the original in person, but I love the color.

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I know, right? The only original metallic blue I see is what little bit is left, faded and chipped away on old engine parts, haha!
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This is a 72 oilpan with the remains of the metallic paint. I went looking for pics of the 401 in my dads wag, but all I've got are shakey sideways cell phone videos that don't catch the shimmer in the shadows. :P
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This picture doesn't capture the sheen of the paint, but it shows the difference in shades. The engine in front of the white cherokee is the later color while the engine in front of the orange cherokee is Seymour EN66. Image
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Thanks gentlemen! I was picturing it would be the color in front of the white Cherokee there, but I like the Seymour EN66 as well. I ordered a can of the EN66 and some Seymour primer, it'll be here Thursday which is perfect because Friday is supposed to be nice and warm and I'll hit my new oil pan with it first to see how I like it!
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Sorry if that is the wrong animal. I did some research on AMC boards to get the EN66. The pictures I saw were more like the color in front of the white Cherk. I have never repainted an AMC engine to original color. My 401 is Pontiac blue while my first 401 was painted orange and black.
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I don't think you need to apologize Flint. From all the research I did, Seymour used the same paint code (AM-66) for a range of colors in the metallic blue that are all similar but not identical, there were at least 4 different hues for AM-66 from what I found. Since Seymour was the original supplier, my best intuition is that EN-66 matches at least one of those hues of AM-66. Someone else may be closer, but having never seen a factory finish of the original AM-66 in person, all I've got is the opinions of those with subjective memories of what it used to look like.
EDIT>>>past the numbers, what really matters is how much the owner likes it. I liked my 401 black & yellow, but when I gave it to my dad, he wanted metallic blue so blue it became. If someone wants a metallic teal or metallic seafoam, it's up to them. So long as it's not Ford blue :P .
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Thanks Matt. Yeah I have seen different shades along the way. The 4.0 in my Eagle is one of those shades I think. :D
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I am partial to the AMC color that guy sells on eBay.

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Dang Craig those look sick! I'll see what my Amazon paint looks like on Thursday.

There's gonna be a few Ford parts on my rig but no Ford Blue I promise!
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From my understanding there are two different shades of AMC blue. An early shade (EN66, the metallic one) and then a later shade (EN75, the flatter teal color). I'm not sure what year they changed colors but there are two distinct shades of AMC blue.
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Nikkormat wrote:This picture doesn't capture the sheen of the paint, but it shows the difference in shades. The engine in front of the white cherokee is the later color while the engine in front of the orange cherokee is Seymour EN66. Image
Picture courtesy of CheapJeepBrad
Maybe it's just the pic, but the paint I've got looks way more like the engine on the left. The one on the right looks more like Ford blue to me.

Edit: Here's an old pic of my engine after paint...

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HeavyMetalThunder_81 wrote:From my understanding there are two different shades of AMC blue. An early shade (EN66, the metallic one) and then a later shade (EN75, the flatter teal color). I'm not sure what year they changed colors but there are two distinct shades of AMC blue.
My understanding too. The changeover was 1974-ish. I owned a California-delivery 1973 CJ-5 with a 304 and it had the metallic blue color. I also owned a 1975 California-delivery CJ-6 with a 258, and it was the solid teal color. My current '75 49-states CJ-6 with a 304 also has remnants of the solid teal color.

Pretty sure the metallic blue extends back to the introduction of the AMC V8s in Jeeps, ca 1971, but only for the 49 states. The Jeeps for California delivery were red through 1972, similar to the Buick red. Both CA and 49 states were metallic blue for 1973.
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az chip wrote:I am partial to the AMC color that guy sells on eBay.

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This resembles my mental picture of the through-73 metallic blue, but the pictured color is somewhat more intense and too glossy. Part of the intensity difference likely due to the glossier base of modern paints (ie urethanes vs acrylic enamel). And I presume engine paint did not get a lot of attention at the factory; likely they were sprayed to an even color - nearly dry - not to a wet gloss.
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That's exactly it. In my research I found a guy with Cascade ramblers with a big collection and he was the one that told me first hand that the AM-66 paint wasn't consistently the same hue. He had all original Marlins and javelins, so he had plenty of engines to look at.
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Appearance of single-stage metallic very much depends on application technique, ie how stirred-up the paint is, gun angle, gun pressure, amount of material applied, etc. Likely the engines did not get much scrutiny wrt appearance ... get the color on and get it down the line.
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My paint says EN-66.
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az chip wrote:My paint says EN-66.
Yes, AM-66 it's what they sold directly to AMC, EN-66 is what they sell now to anyone.
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4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.
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