1986 waggy basic family rig

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1986 waggy basic family rig

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First off this is my first waggy, my dad had a 76' cherokee as a kid and took us everywhere in that thing, from my first football game to my first hunting trip. EDIT: the other vehicle that I grew up in was a 6.2 gmc diesel duelly, hence the 6.5 diesel I picked up.So as I am getting to the age of having a family I thought of no better type of rig to make memories in. Now to introduce my waggy. Its an 86, waggy 360/727 dana 44's front and rear, 2.72 gears 2" lift, pulled it out of a guys yard, 96k on the clock, also an interesting note is that it was owned by the us government apparently as part of the forestry service, has government tags in the glove box.

The good, runs and drive amd stops

Tires are separated and bad

Radiator leaks

2" lift is shakeles done wrong,

Frame cracked by the sway bar

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Picked up a frame donor.

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Interior shots of the waggy

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Welcome! You up in warshintun, or is that just where you got that wag? ;)
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3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.
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Sweet jeep- welcome to the 'just empty every pocket" club!


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No I'm from Washington. Got lucky both my rig and the parts rig were within 15 miles of me. I'm
In the Tacoma/puyallup area. Thanks for the welcome!
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You bet! I'm a Colorado native but spent 10yrs home ported in bremerton and Everett, followed by another 6 based out of JBLM and YFC. I actually lived up past Granite Falls for a big chunk of that. The wife and I get back up that way 2-5 times a year due to all the connections we still have up there. :-bd
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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I saw that for sale and what's weird is the no power windows, mirrors, and tailgate.

I thought that standard on all grand wagoners. Also badging is different.
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ShagWagon wrote:I saw that for sale and what's weird is the no power windows, mirrors, and tailgate.

I thought that standard on all grand wagoners. Also badging is different.
Also no wood. There were a hand full of "fleet" Grand wags that were ordered this way, most by GSA (for the gubmint, both federal and federally funded like fire and Parks departments) but a few private companies too. The only example I'd ever seen in person was an 88 being auctioned and still had the Union Pacific badges on it. That one had vinyl benches front and rear too.
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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Yea, title states its a grand wag but obviously optioned lower. But it has us government tags in the glove box. Was a cream color originally
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Congrats on a very unique vehicle. That one is a rare bird for sure since most went to the scrapper rather than being sold as surplus. More than likely yours was a supervisor or agency director's ride as the worker bee types got base model cherokees and wagoneers with the rubber flooring, vinyl covered seats and no frills whatsoever.

PS: Did you have to pay extra for the bottle of wine? :P
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A forestry service grand wagoneer? That is cool! I'm excited to see you turn it into a basic family rig. That's what I did with my '89.
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Tatsadasayago wrote:Congrats on a very unique vehicle. That one is a rare bird for sure since most went to the scrapper rather than being sold as surplus. More than likely yours was a supervisor or agency director's ride as the worker bee types got base model cherokees and wagoneers with the rubber flooring, vinyl covered seats and no frills whatsoever.

PS: Did you have to pay extra for the bottle of wine? :P

The wine bottle holds up the hood release since its missing a spring. Was the closest thing thanks to my wife they are plentiful around
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Removed the frame and drive-train and disposed of the body..



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UPDATED PLAN: ver 2.0
32" bfg ko2 tires (stock wheels for now)
6.5 diesel (non turbo)
nv4500/241
Stock dana 44 front and rear (amc 20 if i go 3.31 gears)
clean-ish interior.

Parts that Have

Motor 6.5 diesel
trans and transfer case
dana 44 front 2.72 gears
dana 44 rear 2.72 gears
amc 20 with 3.31 gears
extra 3.31 gear set.
roof rack from donor rig
bj's roof rack mounting kit
bj's mirror mounts
early black dodge mirrors
Bj's complete carpet kit.

Parts I need

Motor mounts
radiator
clutch
clutch hydralics
drive shafts modified
lift kit (maybe make custom front pack as the rear already has lift blocks)
Clutch pedal assembly
air cleaner for 6.2 diesel
exhaust
diesel fuel line
tail gate window rebuild stuff
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Good looking start! And welcome!
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You guys and your giant shops with lifts. Show off :). Nice, unique project. Keep us updated.
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Those front shackles it came with are sketchy as anything! What are they made of, hardware store grade aluminum?

Cool to see you making progress. Awesome to have a nice big shop to work in! My dad has a shop with a 4 post lift but he's got so many classic cars now I start to feel like a valet boy just to go over and use it. Then better hope it doesn't rain while in there or I gotta be drying them off so they don't spot and ruin all the time he spent waxing all that single stage old paint haha. I got big plans to build my own shop with a 2 post and 15' ceiling. I have the space for it but that's an even bigger plan than my Jeep build so maybe it'll be built by my next project. Thankfully I have a barn but it's a little tight. Well it won't be too bad once I kick all the crap we've been hoarding out of there this spring.

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az chip wrote:You guys and your giant shops with lifts. Show off :). Nice, unique project. Keep us updated.

Im lucky i have a very large 2 car attached, my brother lives 4 miles away has a 3 car attatched, and the pictured 40x50 shop.
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