Mars wrote:One man's trans leak is another's penetrating oil
Mars wrote:One man's trans leak is another's penetrating oil
REDONE wrote:So after single-handedly derailing another thread so far into the weeds that it ALMOST went all the way back to Charlie Wenzel, I took a trip down the google hole. I wondered what they heck happened to all the "Good" car shows. TRUCKS! was a good car show. Stacy pushed products, but he made it so blatant that anyone with half a mind knew they were being spoon fed, and I think Stacy had the integrity to be honest. When Duplicolor had him push "Body Shop" parts store paint, he spent a few minutes talking about the differences between enamel, lacquer, and urethane so he wasn't giving a misimpression of what he was laying down. Top Gear (and Amazon's Grand Tour by extension) was a good car show. The interaction between the guys was just a benefit, the show was about CARS! At the time, Jeremy's big freekin mouth wasn't the offense that even I find it to be today, but I also know that's why lots of people liked him. Even if he never spoke a word I bet the same people would still watch just to see a Mazerati demolition derby or a Toyota HiLux dropped out of an airplane.
I've been trying to nail down the tipping point. I think it was about the time of "Full Metal Challenge". FMC with Henry Rollins wasn't an outright "car" show, but it was about the last show I can think of where real people did real things with real tools to real vehicles.
Jesse James took the same concept and turned it into sissy slap-fight crybaby nonsense with "Monster Garage". I don't remember if "Pimp My Ride" was before or after that, but those both seemed to be the petunias growing out of the car shows grave. 90% of the shows runtime would be arguing and throwing things, or crying into the camera first-person style. They never explained what they were doing to the CAR or why they were doing it to the CAR, just a bunch feelings being demonstrated or explained. LAME. If I wanted feelings, I'm sure I could find the Hallmark channel.
Truth be told, I got rid of TV over 10 years ago. Everything turned into a reality show and I got whatever I wanted from the internet and that really hasn't changed much. Now I stream Archer and occasionally one pundit or another, but thought that if I did want to veg out and binge on a car show, are there any?
In my google hole I found this article from Jalopnik: http://jalopnik.com/heres-why-car-tv-sh ... 1729572843
Seems pretty legit, but I was wondering if there are any different opinions here, or if this was just a plug for Jay Leno's Garage.
Wow, so much wrong in this statement.prospector wrote:They went head to head in their mopars, gas monkey in a 68-69 dodge dart, built to the hilt, and roadkill in freibergers '69 dodge charger with the full on computerized dodge hellcat engine setup, built by a specialty factory affilliated company, 707 hp. When the lights turned green all roadkill saw was the quickly fading tail lights of a dodge dart, it was GONE. Freiberger and finnigan went home embarassed.
Stuka wrote:Wow, so much wrong in this statement.prospector wrote:They went head to head in their mopars, gas monkey in a 68-69 dodge dart, built to the hilt, and roadkill in freibergers '69 dodge charger with the full on computerized dodge hellcat engine setup, built by a specialty factory affilliated company, 707 hp. When the lights turned green all roadkill saw was the quickly fading tail lights of a dodge dart, it was GONE. Freiberger and finnigan went home embarassed.
1: GMG only agreed to the challenge after Dodge stepped in and said "you either agree, or we pull our funding". because GMG wanted nothing to do with Roadkill. The whole idea of the challenge WAS Dodges.
2: BOTH teams were required to use a Hellcat Engine and Transmission. Dodge provided the setups to both teams.
3: Car bodies were supposed to be in stock form. GMG back halved their car and did a full tub, which allowed for FAR larger tires.
4: GMG did not use the 8sp ZF trans, they put in a power glide (FAR less parasitic losses, 2sp perfect for drag racing)
5: While another team did the engine swap on the RK Charger, GMG also hired out their Hemi stuff to DiabloSport.
6: The single biggest issue, and what I was alluding too above, is the BS that Discovery channel pulled. Not just the stuff that was done on purpose to spice up the show (GMG actually said they broke the rules on purpose), but the Roadkill crew was NOT ALLOWED TO RECORD THE RACE. So the big race, that was at Roadkill Nights, could not be recorded by Roadkill.
The car that GMG built was a good car, Aaron knows his stuff. And I actually like Aaron, I just cannot stand Richard. But the BS "reality" TV crap that was pulled is what pissed people off.
EDIT: BTW, Diversified Creations that did the hemi swap on the charger is not Chrysler affiliated shop. They did the swap simply because the RK guys didn't have the time to do it themselves. And they were very clear and open about that fact.
Fair enoughprospector wrote:Yeah yeah Stuka, I was just giving the barest synopsis, I didn't want to have to type all the stuff you just did.
Yeah, I miss the Discovery of the 80's and 90's.Lumpskie wrote:Thanks for filling me in. From what I saw, I could tell that there was something strange about that race. Sounds like Discovery messed the whole thing up with it's reality show mentality. I remember back when that channel was full of animal documentaries... those were the days.
Same here. Loved watching actual science stuff. Next, they'll have a show called "OW, my balls!"Stuka wrote:Yeah, I miss the Discovery of the 80's and 90's.Lumpskie wrote:Thanks for filling me in. From what I saw, I could tell that there was something strange about that race. Sounds like Discovery messed the whole thing up with it's reality show mentality. I remember back when that channel was full of animal documentaries... those were the days.