Rusty's 2" AAL

[bwwhaler]

I hate to revive this old thread, but I have a couple of questions as I am thinking about the Rusty's AAL for my rig. Jjkage84 did you finish the front? Do you have any pics of it? How do you like the ride now? Also, do you need longer shocks with this modification? Thanks, I have to do this on the cheap, and get rid of the sag, that's why I was asking.

[bbuenger71]

I hate to revive this old thread, but I have a couple of questions as I am thinking about the Rusty's AAL for my rig. Jjkage84 did you finish the front? Do you have any pics of it? How do you like the ride now? Also, do you need longer shocks with this modification? Thanks, I have to do this on the cheap, and get rid of the sag, that's why I was asking.

I'm right there with you. I want to do the same to mine and have the same questions. I need tires and don't wanna invest money on the stock size if I plan on lifting it soon. Also, What size tire works best with this lift? On stock rims.

Also... What about the 3.5" AAL Rusty's has on their site? Would this be okay to do front and rear?

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-suspe ... -pair.html

[bwwhaler]

Those were what I was looking at, and I believe one of the original posters said that it was around $150 for the springs, so, I was thinking that it could have been those you are looking at. Hopefully, one of the OP's can chime in and give us an update. I am running 31's now on worn out stock springs, so I am sure that they will work with any lift, not sure about going to 32's with just add a leaf's. I really want to know about the shock issues and exactly what springs they used and what the end result of the lift was... 1", 2" of lift?

[Mdcptman]

I got about 2 1/2 inches of lift out of the Rusty's 2 inch AAL kit. I bought the kit that included shocks, because yes, you need longer shocks. I also got a new steering stabilizer at the same time. All went together very well. And the stance is perfect on 31x10.5s. Im not sure if 32s would fit without rubbing. I am using aftermarket rims with about a 1/4" more backspacing, and that seems to help with clearance. Cost of everything with shipping was under $350. I love it and I'd do it again.

[bwwhaler]

Great, thanks for the info... I believe I may try getting just the front and rear leaves and running my stock shocks for a bit until I can afford new ones. I know they will limit downward flex, but hopefully not much more. At least I could buy a few months or so like that.

[BotterbrodtGE]

Wanting to go for a certain look/functional setup with my Wag. I want to get 16" steel wheels (looks like 4.00"BS is all that's available so I'll deal with that, maybe customs with 3.75"BS). I am looking to run skinny tires so I'm thinking 235/85R16 tires. Will 2 inches of lift give me enough clearance? It'll be a road only Wag for now since work doesn't give me time to go out and enjoy the rugged side of life, at most a dirt road/trail most likely maintained. I am going for the 60's look with minimum lift and skinny tires since I don't need a lot of height. I am not against trimming around the wheel wells but at most only 1". I know my choice of tire is around 32" in diameter but most of my reading has leaned towards the wide tire being the limiting factor with rubbing

1990 Grand Wagoneer, Stock height, Beat and Needing some Love

[Mdcptman]

Wanting to go for a certain look/functional setup with my Wag. I want to get 16" steel wheels (looks like 4.00"BS is all that's available so I'll deal with that, maybe customs with 3.75"BS). I am looking to run skinny tires so I'm thinking 235/85R16 tires. Will 2 inches of lift give me enough clearance? It'll be a road only Wag for now since work doesn't give me time to go out and enjoy the rugged side of life, at most a dirt road/trail most likely maintained. I am going for the 60's look with minimum lift and skinny tires since I don't need a lot of height. I am not against trimming around the wheel wells but at most only 1". I know my choice of tire is around 32" in diameter but most of my reading has leaned towards the wide tire being the limiting factor with rubbing

1990 Grand Wagoneer, Stock height, Beat and Needing some Love

I think you would be ok, but dont know for certain. Because of the way the springs travel wen compressed, you may rub at the front of the wheel opening of the rear tire. The wheel moves up and forward at full flex, so a bigger tire will sometimes rub there. Just bend it in a little with a soft hammer and it will be good.

As for using original shocks: the stock shocks wont limit compression, they limit extension. In stock form, they already limit full extension by an inch or 2. So using stock shocks w a 2 inch lift will be noticed if you want the suspension to travel to full extension. It wont show up really in sitting still or on smooth roads. The shocks that came with the Rusty's kit have been great so far. If u get the kit make sure u check all the boxes for all the hardware as soon as u get it. They originally shipped mine without the shock bushings. I didnt open the box for 6 months after it arrived, and found that the bushings and the steering stabilizer weren't in there. I called Rusty's and they gladly, and promptly made it right. I had the missing parts in 2days after I called. As I said, Rusty's customer service is great.

[bwwhaler]

Thanks for the reply, and info, one more question. Did you remove your spring pack to add the leaf, or just leave them on and take it apart without removing it from the frame. It seems it would go quicker removing the spring pack, unless you run into a problem.

[Mdcptman]

I did not remove the spring pack. I left the long leaf with the eyes on the ends attached to the shackle. I cut the center bolt, and reassembled the pack using 2 big c clamps. I do think it would be much easier to assemble the pack out of the vehicle. But i didnt wanna get into un doing the shackles.

[surfwagoneer]

For anyone that is interested I called rusty's today and asked about their 3.5" AAL, they said its made for our front springs. I plan on using these in combo with a rear shackle flip using the ford ranger rear spring hangers http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=144373 Gonna use this on my chief to get a bit more lift on the cheap for the time being. Might also go ahead and swap in some rear chevy springs too if I can figure out a junkyard rear driveshaft swap for the extra length needed.

[bwwhaler]

That's good to know, I was wondering what they were for, I guess I can use these for the front and use the 2 inch for the rear with a small block to level it out.