Max Tire size, if fenders were fully removed.

Markstrimaran · Post by **Markstrimaran** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:42 am

Any idea on running large tires as a severely chopped rock crawler, using stock suspension.
Thanks

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Post by **fulsizjeep** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:34 am

Hi. I am assuming this is for a Grand Wagoneer. Removing front fenders is easy but the rear fenders are the limiting factor. The rear wheel wells are small compared to the front and would take serious cutting to go bigger than 32x11.5x15.

Post by **Stuka** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:47 am

If you are serious about rock crawling, you need more ground clearance and travel than the stock suspension will give. Like Flint said, the fronts are easy to remove. But the rear is a double wall that separates and you will end up with a HUGE open gap between the two after cutting.

rocklaurence · Post by **rocklaurence** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:17 am

There was a Magazine project of a 60's panel wagon that they were running a 4" lift with 38x15 tires. They removed the inner fenders, cut the front outer fenders and cut and tub'd the rear wheel wells. This was to make a dune runner with a lot of compression travel. I've seen 36" tires with cut fron fenders on a stock suspension.

tedlovesjeeps71 · Post by **tedlovesjeeps71** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:53 am

rocklaurence wrote:There was a Magazine project of a 60's panel wagon that they were running a 4" lift with 38x15 tires. They removed the inner fenders, cut the front outer fenders and cut and tub'd the rear wheel wells. This was to make a dune runner with a lot of compression travel. I've seen 36" tires with cut fron fenders on a stock suspension.

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Post by **Stuka** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:45 am

rocklaurence wrote:There was a Magazine project of a 60's panel wagon that they were running a 4" lift with 38x15 tires. They removed the inner fenders, cut the front outer fenders and cut and tub'd the rear wheel wells. This was to make a dune runner with a lot of compression travel. I've seen 36" tires with cut fron fenders on a stock suspension.

That was John Cappa that did that. He still gets hate for it. From what I understand it was badly rusted, but I never saw it in person. But hacking up a very rare FSJ made a lot of people angry.

44bz · Post by **44bz** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:43 pm

I thought of this build, I think he ended up with 42s if I remember right.
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=148475

It’s pretty well modified but gives an idea about the wheel well trimming required.

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Post by **Stuka** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:18 pm

44bz wrote:I thought of this build, I think he ended up with 42s if I remember right.
http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=148475

It’s pretty well modified but gives an idea about the wheel well trimming required.

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I totally forgot about that rig. It was one of the better setups that I have seen for handling the rear.

Markstrimaran · Post by **Markstrimaran** » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:23 pm

Thanks, for the ideas.
Still looking into the 63" chevy 1500 rear springs, with a shackle flip. My wagoneer is a 4 door.

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