The V6 model actually isnt bad. I have driven it (up here in the hills) and while it doesnt have the punch of the Hemi, its FAR better on fuel and is fine for daily driving.wvrefugee wrote:We're going to look at one tonite in Pittsburgh. I kinda like the Trail Hawk version. Motor HP sucks though. Probably end up with a '14 Grand Cherokee for the wifey! Pics later!
I say just wait a couple months for the diesel option!!!Stuka wrote:The V6 model actually isnt bad. I have driven it (up here in the hills) and while it doesnt have the punch of the Hemi, its FAR better on fuel and is fine for daily driving.wvrefugee wrote:We're going to look at one tonite in Pittsburgh. I kinda like the Trail Hawk version. Motor HP sucks though. Probably end up with a '14 Grand Cherokee for the wifey! Pics later!
Agree!nc wagoneer wrote:I say just wait a couple months for the diesel option!!!Stuka wrote:The V6 model actually isnt bad. I have driven it (up here in the hills) and while it doesnt have the punch of the Hemi, its FAR better on fuel and is fine for daily driving.wvrefugee wrote:We're going to look at one tonite in Pittsburgh. I kinda like the Trail Hawk version. Motor HP sucks though. Probably end up with a '14 Grand Cherokee for the wifey! Pics later!
nc wagoneer wrote:I say just wait a couple months for the diesel option!!!Stuka wrote:The V6 model actually isnt bad. I have driven it (up here in the hills) and while it doesnt have the punch of the Hemi, its FAR better on fuel and is fine for daily driving.wvrefugee wrote:We're going to look at one tonite in Pittsburgh. I kinda like the Trail Hawk version. Motor HP sucks though. Probably end up with a '14 Grand Cherokee for the wifey! Pics later!
Whats wrong with what the Grand Cherokee looks like? I personally think its the best looking GC ever.lindel wrote:Diesel won't make it any prettier...
The new Cherokee is not badge engineered. Yes it uses an existing platform for its basis (Every Jeep does except for the JK), but it is a highly modified version of the existing Giulietta's platform. So much so that its almost its own platform now.Dirtmonkey wrote:I ran across one on the highway today - I can't get the XJ to stop sobbing hysterically. They should've let the Cherokee nameplate maintain its dignity and just called this the Jeep WTF. Watering down Jeep with badge engineered stuff like this probably isn't going to end well.
Just for this, I'm going to find the Navajo blanket stripes to put on the XJ when it gets repainted and reinforce the heritage. We got some pics of it parked next to an M715 we ran across for sale and you can clearly see the relationship, not gonna happen with the new one.
Hey now...Stuka wrote:Ah you are right, it was the AMC i4. The CJ's had the iron duke.
Biggest reason the TJ went away was crash standards and its high drag coefficient. Crash standards can be blamed for a lot of vehicles becoming larger. "Compact" cars today are lager than mid size sedans from 20 years ago.
Jeep also wanted to get rid of the 4.0 because it was a very expensive engine to make. Having a single engine that only goes into one vehicle is expensive. Which is unfortunate as it was a good engine. But would have required a lot of work to get the power that modern engines make. And the 2006 Wrangler with a 4cyl with 147hp (19mpg HWY) gets worse fuel economy than a 2013 4dr Wrangler (21 mpg HWY) with its 285hp V6. Although that can partly be blamed on the 4cyl that was used in the TJ. A more modern direct injected one would do better. But also has a lot to do with aerodynamics, which were very poor on the TJ in comparison to the JK...