5 speed YJ keeps popping out of first gear

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5 speed YJ keeps popping out of first gear

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I don't have many details, but my friends 6 cylinder, 5 speed YJ is popping out of first gear. It has a body lift and the shifter was hitting the dash at one point, but the shifter was bent so it wouldn't hit the dash. The shifter isn't hitting the tranny tunnel/carpet.

Now they are asking me to look at it/fix it.

What's most likely wrong?
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If it has 3 bolts holding the shifter on, it's a Peugeot BA 10/5
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How many miles are on it? Could simply be worn out.
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I think it has over 100k miles on it. Was used as a DD for most of it's life. Only in the last couple of years was it lifted and I don't think it's ever been 'wheeled more than a couple of times...
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carnuck wrote:If it has 3 bolts holding the shifter on, it's a Peugeot BA 10/5

This. Would almost bet money on it. Same thing happened to my '89. Ended up with just 3rd gear and swapping out the trans.
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It could be worn synchros, but if it is a BA trans, it's a very common problem for them.


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Stuka wrote:It could be worn synchros, but if it is a BA trans, it's a very common problem for them.


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Right before I bought my last 2 Wags I almost bought an early 90s YJ with a 5 speed that would do the same thing- synchros were gone. As soon as that happened I didnt go through with the buy, but the dealer bought a used tranny for a couple hundred bucks.
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the original honcho wrote:
Stuka wrote:It could be worn synchros, but if it is a BA trans, it's a very common problem for them.


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Right before I bought my last 2 Wags I almost bought an early 90s YJ with a 5 speed that would do the same thing- synchros were gone. As soon as that happened I didnt go through with the buy, but the dealer bought a used tranny for a couple hundred bucks.
People like to shift into first gear while moving. Its very hard on the transmission and should be avoided if possible. This goes for most all manuals.
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Well I actually drove the YJ today. It's a '95 straight six/5spd with a lift and 33's. 136k miles on the original drive train.

Runs great and is nice and tight. Only problem is the first gear pops out once you get it moving. All other gears work great and it drives well.

Any ideas what tranny is in there? What's the rough value of a '95 YJ with a fresh paint job and bad tranny?
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A 95 with a 4.0 will have an AX15, which is a great transmission. That one just happens to have the first gear syncho shot. Although it could be a bad bearing on one of the shafts as well.

Not sure what they go for there. Here they go for more than they are worth I think. Here they go for 4-8k. With 8k being the later 4.0 models in good shape.
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I'll get some pics up. She wants around 6k for it. Has a very nice swing out tire carrier, new 33x12.50's, nice bumpers, good paint job. Interior is missing some pieces, but she has 'em. Runs like a top but first is shot.

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Is that a factory color?
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No, it's been repainted. I think the original color was light blue. They did better than a 'half @$$' job, but not much better. It looks good though. A little overspray here and there and they did the entire tub.

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Well I think I got conned into rebuilding the tranny....
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Blake wrote:Well I think I got conned into rebuilding the tranny....
Conned? Did they offer you a non-existent reward or something? :P
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No it's my old manager's jeep here at work. She brought it over a couple of months ago wanted me to fix it, but I was busy building my own junk.

Now that I'm sick of it being in my way, I asked her what he wanted me to do. So we agreed that I would rebuild the tranny for $700 if she supplies the rebuilt kit.

I've looked at a few AX15 rebuild threads and it doesn't seem to bad.

Ripping it out of the jeep tonight...
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Is Crystal aware women are paying you for services????? :P
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Tin Medic wrote:Is Crystal aware women are paying you for services????? :P
yep

how do you think we can afford to build all these jeeps?!! :fsj:
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Funny. I dont think the AX15 should be to hard to rebuild.
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