No prices yet, but my guess is the base MSRP will be around 31k, which is inline with other 4wd Mid-Size trucks.Cecil14 wrote:It's super cool, and I agree about the naming. Unfortunately, I have a feeling they are going to price it way out of the market. Maybe they'll offer a base model for a reasonable price, but honestly it needs to be about $25k to sell well, and that's just not likely to happen.
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Yeah, a "Base" 1/2 ton truck starts in the 39-40k range, and they can be priced to almost 70k. A moderately equipped 4wd Tacoma is in the mid 30's, and they can be priced to the upper 40's.Cecil14 wrote:Base model (and I mean base) MSRP on the Tacoma is $25,550. I would totally expect "standard equipped" models to be in the low to mid 30s, though.
I understand it's just standard inflation, but DANG CARS ARE EXPENSIVE anymore. Ugh.
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There is a lot of leg room. Was watching a live stream earlier up on stage and I actually said "wow" when I law the rear leg room. Its more than a standard JLU.REDONE wrote:Hahahahah! My brother in law owes $11K on a 2010 GMC Acadia that just got towed to the scrapyard. I blame the banks for financing these people more than I blame the people taking out the loans. The borrowers don't know any better. The banks know exactly what they're doing because they just did the same thing 10 years ago with houses.
Back to Jeepiness, anyone got pics of the back seat area yet? I've seen pics of the bed (heart 419), and I'm guessing the front looks like a Wrangler; but I've heard that it's got "the most in-class rear legroom" and I'm curious what that looks like.
That's cool and does do a lot to give us a realistic idea of its size compared to our FSJs.letank wrote:ready for our needs too
could not resist
Beat me to it. I've been drooling over YouTube vids of this and just saw the "built" Mopar JT.89er wrote:Jalopnik posted this one on '35s
Absolute unit. Not a fan of the front grille though, they should square it up for the future grand wagoneer.
Phils67 wrote:I dig it but would like it better as a 2 door Rubicon. Apparently the rubi has the locking front and rear diffs, sway disconnect, 4.1 rocktrac case and 4.10s, and can clear 35s stock despite coming stock on 33s. Now picture that with a nukizer fiberglass front clip and we really may have something. Im not a fan of the wrangler nose but i am also not against it. I think it is more the fact that we have waited over 25yrs for another jeep truck and that is what will have everyone creaming their jeans over it or just about any truck that jeep would have released. I get it, I know why people like them, but I still don't accept crew cab trucks with tiny beds. Growing up trucks sat 3 people tops and could haul 8 foot sheets of plywood with the tailgate closed. Imagine 3 feet of plywood or lumber flopping around hanging off the back of that thing. To me, trucks are go-anywhere rigs meant for work use. If I want to go get groceries and pick up the kids I'll take my wifes car. Again, I DO like it, but I think I am more drawn to it by the performance specs and the namesake than anything asthetically
The bed is designed so that you can carry plywood. The tailgate can lock in a hallway position. The plywood then rests on the wheel wells and tail gate. About 1.5 will stick out past the end of the tail gate. But to me, this would be fine. It’s very rare the avg person carries a full 8ft sheet. I have done it in my J10 twice in the 15 years I have had it.tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:
I have a strange feeling that perhaps they will eventually produce a 2 door version and it will get the scrambler moniker. IMHO, it seems more fitting to do that.
I’m interested to see more specs on the bed. I’m glad it’s made of steel (vs aluminum) but wonder if the wheel wells will fit a 4’ sheet of plywood. With the gate up (or partially up) I think only a foot or two of an 8’ stud would hang out. It’s a decent compromise considering it isn’t supposed to be full sized. With the proposed tow rating (diesel) anyone wanting to use it more for truck duties may have to opt for dragging a trailer for longer/heavier materials but at least it’s capable to do so.
One thing I wish Jeep would do is offer gearing options from the factory. If one orders a Jeep knowing they will quickly go with 35s or bigger, an option box to order deeper gears from the beginning would be nice. Special order your Rubicon with say 4.88s since you know it’ll get 37s makes it easier than a car payment, paying for lift and tires, and then having to shell out for new gear sets. Doubt it would happen but it’d be nice.
That's good to know. I realize we don't often carry materials but if I bought a mid size, I'd hope it could accommodate an occasional "emergency run" to the depot for a needed sheet of whatever.Stuka wrote:The bed is designed so that you can carry plywood. The tailgate can lock in a hallway position. The plywood then rests on the wheel wells and tail gate. About 1.5 will stick out past the end of the tail gate. But to me, this would be fine. It’s very rare the avg person carries a full 8ft sheet. I have done it in my J10 twice in the 15 years I have had it.tedlovesjeeps71 wrote:
I have a strange feeling that perhaps they will eventually produce a 2 door version and it will get the scrambler moniker. IMHO, it seems more fitting to do that.
I’m interested to see more specs on the bed. I’m glad it’s made of steel (vs aluminum) but wonder if the wheel wells will fit a 4’ sheet of plywood. With the gate up (or partially up) I think only a foot or two of an 8’ stud would hang out. It’s a decent compromise considering it isn’t supposed to be full sized. With the proposed tow rating (diesel) anyone wanting to use it more for truck duties may have to opt for dragging a trailer for longer/heavier materials but at least it’s capable to do so.
One thing I wish Jeep would do is offer gearing options from the factory. If one orders a Jeep knowing they will quickly go with 35s or bigger, an option box to order deeper gears from the beginning would be nice. Special order your Rubicon with say 4.88s since you know it’ll get 37s makes it easier than a car payment, paying for lift and tires, and then having to shell out for new gear sets. Doubt it would happen but it’d be nice.
And the 4.10’s are fine for 35’s. 37’s work if you have the 8sp auto. If you have the manual, then 4.56’s or 4.88’s would be nice to save the clutch.