J10 hood wont latch fully on passenger side

[candymancan]

Npticed this when driving. The passenger side of the hood wiggling a little up n down. Went to look and when i grab the hook on that side i can pull it up bout half an inch.

Drivers side wont budge. When i lower the hood slowely to watch. That passenger side clicks once. Then that holds the hood. Thrn push it a little more. And it clicks twice to hold it down further. But after that it doesnt latch again. So it has room to wiggle up n down.

Do i need to adjust the pin with the spring further down maybe or something ? Or does it click a 3rd time ? I dont think itll click a 3rd time. The pin looks like it pushing out the top of the latch already so its bottomed out i think ?

[devildog80]

Try adjusting the pin, and the bump stop, as they do get some wear over time. Also inspect your complete latch system to be sure the cable return spring is good, so it seats the latch engagement fully. Make sure it does not have a broken spring.

Pics of my '84 GW system

20230519_184721 by Scott Weckerly, on Flickr

20230519_184731 by Scott Weckerly, on Flickr

20230519_194239 by Scott Weckerly, on Flickr

[rocklaurence]

Also, make sure the cup on the top of the stud spring moves freely up and down. That cup can bind and cause latch issues.

[candymancan]

Cup moves. Everything is lubed. The little Split spring in the hood latchs works fine. If i move the latch they open and close fine.

But there is still some movement on that side. Its latched twice and locked.. it isnt going anywjrre.. but im wondering does it click three times or jist two ?

[devildog80]

My GW only clicks once, as hood latch is not same as a door latch. The safety hook engages first in top support, then hood should latch once, as mine works. Sure the older trucks similar in design. Maybe the bump stop just needs adjusted, so hood will rest on it, to put a little pressure up on hood to keep latch tight?
If you have any Playdough around the place, or plumbers putty, plop a little ball of it on top the rubber hood stop, then close hood tight. Now open it and see how much slack is between the hood and stop.....adjust as needed.

[SJTD]

The whole procedure is to adjust the hinges to get the back of the hood to match the cowl. Then the two two stops at the front to level the hood. Then the two latches to just hold the hood down on the stops at the front.

The purpose of the springs is to lift the hood when you unlatch it; not to support it while driving.

[candymancan]

Yea it looks like the hood is touching the grill on that aide it looks like.. and you can see someone pryed the hood there. Tried adjusting stuff.. but i can still can lift half an inch up up and down. While the other side is firm in place.

Ill make a video of what im talking about

[devildog80]

It has to be the hood stop, either the rubber cup is worn down, or pin needs adjusted up to meet the hood when fully closed.

[SJTD]

Yeah. It should sit on those outer stops and the inner pins should just hold it against them.

[candymancan]

here is the video of what its doing, so you think the hood stop still needs adjusted ? because that seems like too much up down play, if i adjusted the stop up more and push the hood up so it doesnt do this anymore, then the hood will have a 1 inch gap from the grill versus the other side. The latch is on that side, i wondering if the latch itself is locking too early ? like the arm that flicks foward and clicks.. like it need to later.. can that be adjusted ?

https://youtu.be/yzqm5Pwasfc?si=pmxLw3NuQruwydwn

[devildog80]

Sounds like you need to adjust all 4 pins, both hood stops so the hood is balanced on each side gap, and both latch pins just at the point of latching fully. The hood stops should support the hood when closed and latched, springs on each latch pin should just give the hood that little jump when hood latch is pulled, then release safety catch to fully open.
Had to do mine that way, and replace one of the latch springs that was broken.

[candymancan]

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[candymancan]

Ok i figired kut how to adjist the pin with the spring.. i got it down a little but the pin wont screw firther down on that bottom nut.. with a big f screw driver and wrench i turned it until my joints in my arms hurt.. i sware i must be feeling getting older.. almost 40 and ive noticed my joints in my arms hurt like heck after i mess with tight bolts and stuff. And all the heavy lifting livng on 14 acres

When i close it down. It still pulls up but only a hair.. not worth me hurting myself over. So im satisfied.. until i can get my grill off and do it again with more leverage on that nut. Ill do that when i replace the header panel.

Thanks, sorry for seeming ignorant just never adjisted hoods like this before.

[devildog80]

And if you have A/C in your rig, that bottom nut on passenger front latch pin is a bear to get to, as A/C lines come right through there to evap coil up front of the radiator. I remember it being a 3/4 wrench needed, but working it blind, as it is up inside the front support.
You got this CM, it is just nuts and bolts

[candymancan]

Ŵeird i have a.c and no lines were in my way up there. Ill checkchow mine are routed.

I have 2 cans of r12 left.. gonna refill my wagoneer. And im curious if the j10s works. The blower and everything comes on knobs works. I am missing the entire vent system under the steering column. (If there was one ? ) but i have the vents mid to passenger.

[devildog80]

Lines probably route different than my '84 GW. Glad you had room to access that nut.