proper setup of a weber 32/36 on the straight 6

[Stuka]

Should be noted 258's are not prone to the cam/distributer gear issues that AMC V8's are. Just be sure to inspect both gears, and shim the gear on the HEI.


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[Mrpatatomoto]

Should be noted 258's are not prone to the cam/distributer gear issues that AMC V8's are. Just be sure to inspect both gears, and shim the gear on the HEI.

Haven't heard anything till now about having to shim. How much and where does it need shimmed? I thought it was change the gear and it drops right in.

There's a new ad for a 6A but it doesn't come with a coil, is a stock replacement coil enough? or would I have to switch to a MSD coil?

Can I find all the parts for TFI at a pickapart? I thought id decided last night but apparently not.

[Mrpatatomoto]

PNP came back empty the only 250 I found the only thing missing was the dizzy and just my luck the jeep only yard was closed today even though they're usually open on Saturdays. I did find ash tray bearings though, so the 60 mile drive wasn't a complete waste. There were two older waggys one had a pretty nice egg crate grill till someone took a sawzall to it to get the engine out easier. the center section was in the back seat but looked like it was nice before they ruined it. Both had hitches but they were holding the jeeps up and when I asked if I could get one they said it was more effort to move the wheels it was sitting on (they take the wheels off and set the vehicles on welded together rims) than the 40 bucks they would charge me was worth to them.

So looks like im going route 2 and buying a craigslist MSD

[serehill]

I just finished putting an MSD 6a on mine. Honcho 258. I got lazy & installed a MSD blaster 2 instead of the TFI. I was too lazy to make a bracket. The stock coil will work in your case. I'm using the stock dizzy until I can get an MSD dizzy. My OEM box was starting to fail so I went ahead & installed mine. I need to swap my 8523 or 8519 for a 8516. This was a Craigslist Coil & box for 70 bucks. I've seen 2 gears on the 258 stripped although I agree it's a lot less likely. The only ones I've seen stripped we both HEI's. Although not prone they are not immune on cheaper units. Going for a drive to see how it doing.

[Mrpatatomoto]

Awesome, nice to have someone a few steps ahead. Trying to get a hold of a used 6a today. Main worry was having to buy a new coil when mines only a few months old.

[serehill]

This is another thread paralleling information you may be interested in. I just went on a 50 mile drive with mine really happy. I had to retard mine about 5 degrees though.
http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtop ... =11&t=7100

If you can't find a 6a PM me. I have an extra & a blaster 2. I have them for back up & would have to replace them but might work out a deal to do so.

I'd throw 70 bucks at this guy & see if it sticks. + shipping 81 bucks wouldn't be too bad.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MSD-6A-High-cur ... 44&vxp=mtr

[Mrpatatomoto]

Picked one up today for 80. Stopped and picked up a cap rotor and wires. Gonna get it all put on tomorrow with a stock Napa coil. What's the suggested timing? 8*?

[serehill]

That's where mine is setting it was too advanced & I had to back it off. 8* without vacuum. Change vacuum line to non ported location.

Good luck you'll like it. Install is not too hard. I did have to reverse my wires to the distributor. When I first connected it was trying to start but sounded way too advanced. I reversed the dizzy wires & she lit right up. I'm really happy with it. You'll probably be OK with that coil. I saw a Blaster 2 for 20 bucks on Craigslist. I ordered some parts tonight to put the TFI on later. The blaster 2 worked well on the one I did today.
Notice the relay mod it's worth the trouble.

It wouldn't hurt to make sure your plugs are 40K.

Black wire on the dizzy no connect.

[Mrpatatomoto]

So change vacuum to manifold? Ill buy a blaster 2 in a few weeks, trying to sell some parts to cars I don't even own anymore. Ill look up the relay mod.

[serehill]

Relay is real easy connect the + from the coil t6o the coil on the relay.
Connect the other side of the relay coil to ground so it come son when the key is turned on.
Come off the battery side of the solenoid to a fuse 30 amp & then to the relay N/O contacts.
Attach the secondary side of the N/O contact to the + side of the coil.
This will feed power straight from the battery to the coil for the hottest possible fire you can get.

If you coil is of the resistance type done forget to put a resistor ion line. I don't recommend resistor coils.

[Mrpatatomoto]

Do you have yours wired through the mag pick up? or from the white wire? When you used the stock dist I mean.

If I am buying a cap rotor coil and wires anyways how many more steps is TFI?

[serehill]

TFI is truly just a HV coil usually of ford design. The TFI mod does not require you do all that other stuff it more of less morphed into the Mod known as the TFI. Not a lot of difference between it & the Blaster 2. Mainly the TFI is air cooled epoxy core where the Blaster is oil cooled epoxy core.

You can go to a junk yard & get a TFI coil & mounting bracket cheap which is what made it desirable. If using the 6A with a blaster coil then there's very little difference between that & TFI.

I used the mag pick up. I didn't buy any of that stuff I just used the stock components. More water tight & works just as well.

[Tatsadasayago]

TFI is truly just a HV coil usually of ford design. The TFI mod does not require you do all that other stuff it more of less morphed into the Mod known as the TFI. Not a lot of difference between it & the Blaster 2. Mainly the TFI is air cooled epoxy core where the Blaster is oil cooled epoxy core.

Is that the coil that is usually mounted toward the rear of the driver's side valve cover on the EFI Ford 302s in the 90s? 4 fine thread screws into the bracket that is held in place by the intake manifold bolt(s)?

[Mrpatatomoto]

Okay cool, Hopefully ill get it all installed in a hour or so, gotta run to the store and hope they have the mag pick up extension.

[serehill]

Yes sir

[Mrpatatomoto]

On the mag plug. Orange to green and violet to violet? Or was that backwards?

*edit* from the box violet goes to orange and green goes to violet for future reference.

[Mrpatatomoto]

Did the factory use duct tape over crimped wires? I'm assuming not but there's so many wires crimped together wrapped in duct tape.

[Mrpatatomoto]

Got it all wired up and it starts, Didnt fix the problem though, If I floor it it still dies. trying to figure out how to de wire the engine bay if its possible. This sure has been hacked up, ill upload a picture in a few.

[serehill]

Man I hate to hear it didn't change. Yes the factory used duct tape for electrical tape. did you try to advance the timing any? It still sounds like the accelerator pump not working properly. But it just a shot in the dark. I'm with you on cleaning up the wiring I spent 3 time more yesterday cleaning up wiring than I did installing the MSD. I haven't changed the plugs & it's no doubt running better.

[Mrpatatomoto]

Timing seems best at 10, slows down some before and after 10. Okay good tho know thats how its supposed to be, looks very BEEPED with to me but if they used duct tape then it could be correct. Gonna call weber tomorrow and ask about the full throttle dying. How much did you actually have to cut when you pruned the wiring? From what I read it sounds like it should mostly unplug but doesn't look like it.

Sparkplugs are at .050 (turned out to be bosch platinum) new cap rotor and wires all they had was 7mm in stock so thats what it has for now.