Reversed front springs

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Re: Reversed front springs

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Right now my grand wag has a similar set up. Rustys 4" Springs up front with BJs 2" lift shackle, that gives me 6" of suspension lift while SUA. I did the Chevy 63" spring swap in the rear but built my own adjustable design. I've not wheeled my current set up because I'm in the middle of a motor swap but you can check out my build thread for some ideas on the rear Suspension

http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6956
James Stanley

89 Grand Wagoneer- 727/229/D44s
Front: 4"+ springs, 1"+ chevy shackle
Rear: Shackle Flip with 63" chevy springs
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GWag89 wrote:Right now my grand wag has a similar set up. Rustys 4" Springs up front with BJs 2" lift shackle, that gives me 6" of suspension lift while SUA. I did the Chevy 63" spring swap in the rear but built my own adjustable design. I've not wheeled my current set up because I'm in the middle of a motor swap but you can check out my build thread for some ideas on the rear Suspension

http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6956
BJ's Shackles are 2" longer than stock, but only give 1" of lift.
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Re: Reversed front springs

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Mine are 3" longer than the stock shackle so technically 1.5" lift. But after installing and measuring the difference it wound up being a hair from 2" of lift. I'm running 4" lift Springs as well so results may vary. Only speaking to what I've personally experienced

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James Stanley

89 Grand Wagoneer- 727/229/D44s
Front: 4"+ springs, 1"+ chevy shackle
Rear: Shackle Flip with 63" chevy springs
999 Offroad Skid Plate
4.0 swap in progress

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Re: Reversed front springs

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Yea I have a pair of BJ's shackles on my wagon. They are pure beef and very nice but I really don't like the look of the huge shackle sticking down. I'll use them for the time being if I need the extra lift though. I'm gonna put a hard mount shackle hanger in the rear (I think from a Ford) I got the idea from Lobie and should work perfect for what I need.
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It does hang down quite a bit but I'm just gonna wheel it like it is and change shackle accordingly.
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89 Grand Wagoneer- 727/229/D44s
Front: 4"+ springs, 1"+ chevy shackle
Rear: Shackle Flip with 63" chevy springs
999 Offroad Skid Plate
4.0 swap in progress

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I'm running stock chevy rear 63" spring shackles on the front of the honcho.

Those shackles are like 1" longer and very much like the stock FSJ shackles.

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Re: Reversed front springs

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Blake have you ever thought about running a shackle like the revolver shackle on the front end, might put a lot less torque on those springs.
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surfwagoneer wrote:Blake have you ever thought about running a shackle like the revolver shackle on the front end, might put a lot less torque on those springs.
no

I prefer to be able to actually drive this thing (heck, I tow my camper with it too).

My experience with those shackles is not good for the street/hwy.
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surfwagoneer wrote:Blake have you ever thought about running a shackle like the revolver shackle on the front end, might put a lot less torque on those springs.
Shackles were popular for a while in the early 2000s, then they quickly died away after people realized how unstable they make your vehicle. Friend of mine rolled his waggy on something he never would have rolled on if the shackle had no unloaded. They also just do not hold up on anything larger than a CJ. They tend to crack.
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Re: Reversed front springs

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My brother runs them front and rear on his samurai with yj Springs and they work really well (on a tiny 4x4)

But I've only heard bad things about revolvers on full size rigs. Shackle breakage and bent Springs
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89 Grand Wagoneer- 727/229/D44s
Front: 4"+ springs, 1"+ chevy shackle
Rear: Shackle Flip with 63" chevy springs
999 Offroad Skid Plate
4.0 swap in progress

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Re: Reversed front springs

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Good to know about the revolver shackles. Did some more reading after I made that post. I won't be trying them out
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Both Cherokee & J10 have reversed springs. They just bolt right back up.
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