New to wagoneer shopping, little help plz

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mejerifly
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Re: New to wagoneer shopping, little help plz

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I think that one is overpriced. I wouldn't pay over $4000 for one in that shape. It's most likely worth about $3000. It looks like there is rust around the windshield and I would be suspicious there is rust on the floor. There are a lot of guys here in Colorado that would check one out for you also. Me included.
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Yea i know 8k$ is alot i wouldnt offer him that
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Re: New to wagoneer shopping, little help plz

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That Baltimore wag is a $1500 car, tops.
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Yea i thought so.

So tomorrow im going to look at this one, the 89 i mentioned in the first post. The person claims he has had $2k offers, i doubt it. If he did it woulda been sold already. Im not too worried about the rusted wheel well spot. But i'll keep an eye out for the frame/floorboards and the other spots you guys mentioned. Alternator is bad, so i have to test drive on a fully charged battery that the owner says he has on a charger. So i cant drive it long.. If i could pick this up for 1200-1500 would you ? Assuming the rest of the body is ok rust wise and the trans and engine arent duds

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/ ... 11477.html
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited 219k
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 I6 laredo 430k
1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 155k
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That DC wag, some genius got into the wiring and hooked, the brown alternator wire to the ignition coil. :P
(Would cause all the problems he's described)
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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The one in DC does not excite me. That rear quarter panel rust is only the beginning. For the $2-3K it will cost to repair it properly, you can find a better FSJ without rust.

It's a $500 FSJ at best.
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Re: New to wagoneer shopping, little help plz

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ahah well ill bring my multimeter and check the alternator output if its putting any out..



You talking about this brown wire, where is it suppose to go then ? Image
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That's where it's supposed to go. It's a resistance wire that tells the alt how hard to work. The coil has a ballast resistor that also drops voltage to the coil. If the owner mixed them up and hooked that brown wire to the coil instead of the alternator, the alt won't charge and the key won't kill the coil.
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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Ah ok, well maybe i could chew him down in price for the rusted panel in the back, and the fact that I have to "tow" the vehicle and get a new alternator and yada yada.. And then "assuming" i buy the vehicle i can come back with a person to drive my Jeep home while i fix the coil and alternator and drive off lol
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited 219k
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 I6 laredo 430k
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the $8K wag has some of that rust on the D pillar by the tailgate... the rear quarter panel will be eaten from the top... and the inner tailgate door jam under the plastic is at risk as well.

The brown resistor wire.... forgot where it goes, it replaces the light indicator of low battery/alternator voltage/no charge to ignition powered wire

tom collins page has the infos

http://oljeep.com/gw/elec/GW_wiring.html
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Ok, please help me understand, D pillar ?.. all these terms lol. Despite working on my 98 ZJ for 6 years tearing its engine and stuff apart.. I havent got the lingo on body panels and stuff down
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited 219k
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 I6 laredo 430k
1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 155k
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You understand what a pillar is? It's the connection between the body and roof. The windshield pillar is the A pillar, then B, C, D to the rear.

GIYF in a friendly way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillar_%28car%29
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Ah ok i get it lol..

Anyway i looked at the 89 this morning. Started right up and was a cold start but it had a knocking sound in the engine that kinda went away when warmed up.. oil pressure gauge was broken at 80psi.. The alternator brown wire wasnt plugged into anything.. it was on the two plug on the alternator. But when i follow it the wire was cut like 5 inches down.

The rust was worse thrn the 92.. the fuel tank rust on the frame was so bad it was like the frame was two peices lol front back and no middle hah.

Also alot of floorboard rust i could stick my hand through in spots.. interior was nastyyyyy like a pig was living in it. Rear door wouldnt open nore would the glass go down.

I wouldnt even pay 500$ for that POS.. The 6k$ 91 i looked at was in muchhh better shape.

Ah well.. no other wagoneers here to look at besides the 10-30k ones.

I dont undsrstand why a 91 wagoneer can go for 60k.. 91 isnt old or ( classic) imo.. its 7 years older thrn my ZJ and 1 year older then a 93 ZJ.. and you dont see 93 ZKs going for 60k.

I guess its because it has that antique look sigh
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited 219k
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 I6 laredo 430k
1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 155k
1976 Jeep J10.. 85k(repaired)
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Re: New to wagoneer shopping, little help plz

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They can go for $60K because:
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Who doesn't wish they were Rick Flair with Roddy Piper riding shotgun? :D
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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http://southjersey.craigslist.org/bar/5488774640.html

If you want to go to DC go a liitle further- this is in NJ, just over the bridge from Delaware
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ArchitectJS wrote:http://southjersey.craigslist.org/bar/5488774640.html

If you want to go to DC go a liitle further- this is in NJ, just over the bridge from Delaware
Do you know this guy or is this your Wag by any chance? I like the way the ad is written and if I was in the market and in the area I'd check it out. The only thing off putting is the single pic. it's easy to get a single shot that looks good, but that doesn't say much about the vehicle as a whole. Honestly, it looks like the seller isn't sold on letting go. Anyone interested should ask for an engine pic and an an interior pic before making the drive. :)
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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Yea i saw that one and one pic kinda made me go eh.. I like red though. There is another a nice red one on cl put on today. But they want 5k$ and they admit it has rist and i can see rear rocker panel rust and rust on the rear wheel well. Sooo based on the two ive looked at so far ima assume its rotten as well lols.

This one i really want.. Its soooo beautiful and looks like it has a solid underside. But i dont habe 13 grand.. I wish i had a rich friend i could borrow from lols i could pay him back by end of the year at the latest. Although id offer like 8k$ maybe i can see rocker panel rust bubbling the paint

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1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited 219k
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 I6 laredo 430k
1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 155k
1976 Jeep J10.. 85k(repaired)

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Thanks for helping me btw guys ive learned alot in just 3 short days
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited 219k
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 I6 laredo 430k
1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 155k
1976 Jeep J10.. 85k(repaired)
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I've never seen a wag worth more than $2k. That one included.
79 J-10 (Honcho Mucho) KE0LSU
304/Performance Fuel Injection TBI/MTA1/SP2P/Magnum rockers
T18/D20/D44s&4.10s/33" Mud Claws
Grizzly Locker Rear
4" front spring drop, 5" rear shackle flip
Chevy style HEI (ECM controlled)
Dolphin "Shark" gauges in a fancy homemade oak bezel
3/4 resto, rotting faster than I've been fixing it.

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Yea from what iv seen so far they are way overpriced for the amount of work that needs to be..
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited 219k
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 I6 laredo 430k
1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 155k
1976 Jeep J10.. 85k(repaired)
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