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I think I actually like this one:



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You and me both. Just wish they had the balls to produce it so we could buy it.

I like it ish. Something doesn't look quite right to me about it. Can't figure out just what though.

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Looks like a JK with a different front to me . Windshield and ugly fenders reak of a JK. No problem with JKs but they are just definitely NOT a full size rig. I wish Jeep... um, I mean... Fiat, would just nut it up and make a FULL SIZE retro nod to the FSJ instead of re-cladding an existing production vehicle under the guise of a new vehicle. I might just bite the hook then.
I'd like to see it side by side a W/T chero...

I like that one too! The whole front clip says FSJ to me. The back I think kind of looks like an FJ cruiser. But over all for something new, It's one of a very few I'd consider. I've always liked that color on a chief too.

Widen the cabin by 3 or so inches, and it would be right.

Needs more A$$ and it would benefit with a rear door window channel.

If they ditch the rear doors they would have it but turn away 95% of the buyers.




I still like this older concept........

ProTouring442 wrote:Widen the cabin by 3 or so inches, and it would be right.

It's about as full-size as vehicles get these days - except SD trucks, of course. What hits me as odd on this concept is the existence of (or at least the outline of) a rear door but with no door pillar. So, no windows behind the B-Pillar at all so the door works, or the door is just a body molding'? It almost looks photo-shopped as opposed to built.

I like the look though. The rear in this view looks kind of Jeepster to me and I like it. The lowered roof - or higher doors - gives it a sleek appearance. The front clip is definitely FSJ and I like the narrowed grill. Even if it is a JK in drag, Jeep should think about it as an alternate style for those who don't like the JK's traditional CJ/military Jeep styling.

I would be forced to buy the Chief if it ever made it into production...

Already a post for this created earlier this week: http://fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8116

Posted in general other jeep related. Moving this post there as well.

Landman_MTX wrote: Looks like a JK with a different front to me . Windshield and ugly fenders reak of a JK. No problem with JKs but they are just definitely NOT a full size rig. I wish Jeep... um, I mean... Fiat, would just nut it up and make a FULL SIZE retro nod to the FSJ instead of re-cladding an existing production vehicle under the guise of a new vehicle. I might just bite the hook then.
I'd like to see it side by side a W/T chero...

A JK Unlimted is wider, longer, and heavier than any Wagoneer or Cherokee. What needs to be changed to make it more full sized?

The concept here has 37" tires, to give an idea of size.

Stuka wrote:

Landman_MTX wrote: Looks like a JK with a different front to me . Windshield and ugly fenders reak of a JK. No problem with JKs but they are just definitely NOT a full size rig. I wish Jeep... um, I mean... Fiat, would just nut it up and make a FULL SIZE retro nod to the FSJ instead of re-cladding an existing production vehicle under the guise of a new vehicle. I might just bite the hook then.
I'd like to see it side by side a W/T chero...

A JK Unlimted is wider, longer, and heavier than any Wagoneer or Cherokee. What needs to be changed to make it more full sized?

Driver's seat that will move back far enough for me to get in with out my knees being up against the dash board!

bigun wrote:

Stuka wrote:

Landman_MTX wrote: Looks like a JK with a different front to me . Windshield and ugly fenders reak of a JK. No problem with JKs but they are just definitely NOT a full size rig. I wish Jeep... um, I mean... Fiat, would just nut it up and make a FULL SIZE retro nod to the FSJ instead of re-cladding an existing production vehicle under the guise of a new vehicle. I might just bite the hook then.
I'd like to see it side by side a W/T chero...

A JK Unlimted is wider, longer, and heavier than any Wagoneer or Cherokee. What needs to be changed to make it more full sized?

Driver's seat that will move back far enough for me to get in with out my knees being up against the dash board!

Hmm, never had that problem with my 2dr JK, and I am 6ft 3in tall.


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Stuka wrote:

Landman_MTX wrote: Looks like a JK with a different front to me . Windshield and ugly fenders reak of a JK. No problem with JKs but they are just definitely NOT a full size rig. I wish Jeep... um, I mean... Fiat, would just nut it up and make a FULL SIZE retro nod to the FSJ instead of re-cladding an existing production vehicle under the guise of a new vehicle. I might just bite the hook then.
I'd like to see it side by side a W/T chero...

A JK Unlimted is wider, longer, and heavier than any Wagoneer or Cherokee. What needs to be changed to make it more full sized?

The concept here has 37" tires, to give an idea of size.

Simply put Stuka... the body. While I'm well aware of the tire size, when I said "full size" I was referring more so to the body than its mechanical aspects. While it may mechanically sport the full size attributes (ie width, weight etc), that body still depends on those wide JK style fender flares to give it the appearance of being a FSJ. I'm sure if I laid the hood of my J-truck or waggy on top of the hood of that concept vehicle it would cover that hood like a cozy little blanky. Furthermore, pile a family of four, the golden retiever and all the goodies for a weekend trip of fun and I'm sure they'd end up wishing for that additional interior room instead of the nice fender flares (Hence the comment of "I'd like to see it side by side a W/T chero...)
I love my wife but dang man... on a long road trip of camping and getting dirty, those few inches of interior comfort could very well save my marriage!

Hmm, I am going to have to measure the difference in width. I don't think it is that much. FSJ's have a much narrower body than say a ford or Chevy. I have JK seats in my J10 and it seems the area between the seats is the same. So definitely curious now.


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Stuka wrote:Hmm, I am going to have to measure the difference in width. I don't think it is that much. FSJ's have a much narrower body than say a ford or Chevy. I have JK seats in my J10 and it seems the area between the seats is the same. So definitely curious now.


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You got me curious too Stuka!

And forgot to measure! Been busy remodeling my bathroom, hopefully I will get a chance soon.

Ok finally got out there

I measured from the metal parts of each door, so no arm wrests involved.

JK: 54 1/2"
J10: 58"

The distance between the seats on each is very similar. But there is a larger amount of space between the seat and door on the J10.

Axle widths are pretty similar. The JK has 65" wms axles, J10 64" front and 66.5" rear (J10's measurements are ish, JK's are spec'ed)

The other difference is the overall body width. FSJ bodies get quite a bit wider below the belt line. JK's go straight down. Which explains why the flares are so much larger on the JK.


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My terrible neighbors are a Chrysler exec family (I live in a weird high income are with my parents, we've got some uhhh... unique folks around. More money than sense types.) involved with website management. I was moving junk around in the jeep when one of them drove up and asked "Hey what year is that? It looks just like the new wagoneer concept." "What wagoneer concept?" I probed. "The new one, you wont see it for awhile." she rebutted while driving off.

SO maybe Chrycho is going for a razor grille look on the wagoneer like on this weird concept.

Well we know there is a new grand Wagoneer based on the WK2 platform. Hopefully it has Wagoneer queues on it.


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