On the 'Mothership", in the Tech Archives, Suspension and Lifts, there is a Topic of the Month (TOM) that Todd started in October 2001 titled,
What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos
This is mostly about what tire and lift combinations works on Wagoneers and narrow track (N/T) Cherokees.
There are a few notations about W/T rigs, but the blanket statement given is:
"W/T and J Series pickups usually can use the same lift with one size bigger of a tire."
Sadly, this reference is not helping me plan for my J10 project.
If there better reference, please share it with me and I will shut up and slither back under my rock.
Tire Purchase is driving all of my madness.
I am wanting to install a 4" lift on my J10.
I am am struggling with staying with my OE 15" slotted mag wheels or aftermarket 16" wheels.
More importantly, tire size:
31" or 33"
10.50 or 12.50?
Followup Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
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The PIG Smith
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Followup Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
Bryan Smith
Fort Wayne, Indiana
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1982 Jeep J10
- Has become a Long Term Project.
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- Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
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Re: Follow Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
I ran 31" BFG's with a 4" 'Rusty off road' spring lift and it worked great. A little bit of inner well rubbing on the back tires but it was occasional and didn't cause any damage.
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The PIG Smith
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Re: Follow Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
Thank you Will.
What width tire did you run, 10.50 or 12.50?
Would you recommend that size if your was to pull, double duty as a Winter Daily Driver?
What width tire did you run, 10.50 or 12.50?
Would you recommend that size if your was to pull, double duty as a Winter Daily Driver?
Bryan Smith
Fort Wayne, Indiana
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
- 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green --Daily Driver
1986 Jeep J20
- Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line -- Current Project
1982 Jeep J10
- Has become a Long Term Project.
1981 Jeep J20
- Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
- Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone
IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001
Fort Wayne, Indiana
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
- 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green --Daily Driver
1986 Jeep J20
- Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line -- Current Project
1982 Jeep J10
- Has become a Long Term Project.
1981 Jeep J20
- Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
- Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone
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Re: Follow Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
31x10.50x15s on the factory aluminum slots worked great on my 74 narrow track with stock-semi-tired suspension. No rubbing or deterioration of turning radius.
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Re: Follow Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
On my '67 J3600 I have 31x10.5x15s with worn out suspension, not sure on backspacing of wheels. '87 Grand Wagoneer, 4" Rusty's lift 31x10.50x15 stock wheels, had to turn steering stop out about a 1/8 of a turn.
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Re: Follow Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
I ran 31x10.50 BFG AT tires on 5 slot wheels on a stock J10. No lift. No rub. No problems.
When I swapped in the J20 axles, I lifted 4" and put 315/75R16 (35x12.50) tires on. I don't wheel the truck but it drives down the road with no lift, no rub, no problem. 33x10.50 tires will fit just fine on the stock 5 slot and fit just fine with a 4" lift. If you want to go with the more common 33x12.50R15 (or 305/70R16), you'll need aftermarket wheels that are wider than the factory 5 slot. For reference, my wheels are American Racing AR23 wheels. The ones in the picture are 8 lug for the J20 axles but you can get them in 6 lug for a standard J10.
I've been considering a set of Alcan 6" springs to better clear the tires when I do take it off road however.
Before and after shot:
When I swapped in the J20 axles, I lifted 4" and put 315/75R16 (35x12.50) tires on. I don't wheel the truck but it drives down the road with no lift, no rub, no problem. 33x10.50 tires will fit just fine on the stock 5 slot and fit just fine with a 4" lift. If you want to go with the more common 33x12.50R15 (or 305/70R16), you'll need aftermarket wheels that are wider than the factory 5 slot. For reference, my wheels are American Racing AR23 wheels. The ones in the picture are 8 lug for the J20 axles but you can get them in 6 lug for a standard J10.
I've been considering a set of Alcan 6" springs to better clear the tires when I do take it off road however.
Before and after shot:
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The PIG Smith
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Re: Follow Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
Thanx fellows!
Bryan Smith
Fort Wayne, Indiana
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
- 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green --Daily Driver
1986 Jeep J20
- Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line -- Current Project
1982 Jeep J10
- Has become a Long Term Project.
1981 Jeep J20
- Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
- Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone
IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001
Fort Wayne, Indiana
2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
- 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green --Daily Driver
1986 Jeep J20
- Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line -- Current Project
1982 Jeep J10
- Has become a Long Term Project.
1981 Jeep J20
- Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
- Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone
IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001
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Re: Follow Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
I run Goodyear All-Terrain Adventures -- 31x10.5x15, on a (otherwise bone-stock) 1990 GW with 3" Alcan springs. Rubs the inner fender ever-so-slightly when turned fully to the left (but not the right). Just need to adjust my wheel stop a 1/4 turn, but I'm too lazy to do it.
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Re: Follow Question to the "What FITS and What HITS.... Lift / Tire Combos"
Tatsadasayago wrote:31x10.50x15s on the factory aluminum slots worked great on my 74 narrow track with stock-semi-tired suspension. No rubbing or deterioration of turning radius.
Did you ever get it flexed out? Do you have any pictures running that set up?Gabe, "reformed" Jeep hoarder.