fulsizjeep wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:12 am Welcome and Congrats! It will be a great story after you get your own time with it. All in the family. I doubt you will see any of these on the road. Really, it would shock me if I did.
I owned one for a few years, same year model. It was a project for a 401 because the 360 was a mosquito fogger. I had the 401. Plans changed and I sold it to help fund another more important project.
Couple things about these. You can have a J4800 that is not a Camper Special. The CS has an extra strip of 1/4" steel welded to the bottom of the frame rail between the rear spring mount on front and front spring mount on rear to give better support for cab over campers. The CS has a crazy tall stack of rear springs for the same reason. As far as I know, the CS came with dual tanks but a regular J4800 didn't. It was optional. If I'm wrong, fine. New brake drums are no longer for J4600, J4700, J4800. It is not difficult to mount a 2nd spare tire inside the bed and also attached to the back end of the spare tire mount mounted outside of the right side of the bed.
Mine had dual rear wheels. Not factory. First owner modified it.
Stuka wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:26 am Welcome to the forum. Looks like a really original example, even down to the bag for the wiper fluid. Should be a cool project. And yes, a J4000 with the 8000 gvw is a J4800. It will have a closed knuckle D44 up front, and a D60-3 in back.
As for Toyota's, you should see their prices out here on the west coast, they are ridiculously expensive.
Sometime in 2008 or 09 I went on a quest for the brake drums and could not find any. So, that is old news now. Glad you found them Tim!tgreese wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 5:50 pmInteresting what Flint says about the brake drums. Certainly the 12" 5-lug druns are gone, but RockAuto shows the Bendix 2934R for an 8-lug axle available for this truck. I did not cross the part number, but it seems unlikely there is more than one 8-lug drum for this year.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/jee ... ,drum,1744
I will be converting to disk brakes on all four corners, and I’ll start looking around for power brake options. I’m assuming I can swap a booster in from another J series truck. I have already ordered a disk kit for the rear, just to be able to drive it around the yard. I’d like to find or fab a tcase e-brake setup as well. 4.09 will be the highest gears I’ve run in a long time believe it or not. Most of my trucks run 5.29s or 4.88s, BUT none of them are big green Sherman tanks ha.tgreese wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:49 am Oops - Raybestos, not Bendix.
According to the app info, that drum fits a bunch of Dodge/Fargo trucks too. If I owned this truck, I'd go ahead and do the brakes now and fit all new drums. I'd measure the old drums and keep them if they are turnable (less than 60 thou oversized.) This should prepare you for at least a couple of decades of old-truck operation. This truck should have 4.09 gears, and will sound very busy on the highway, I predict.
So, the reason BJ's is more is the free shipping. If you add a second panel, meaning the full bed, its then only $110 more than the price for one.keyappstate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:30 pm hunting around for some repair panels online, obviously Bjs is the #1 hit but they are very proud of their work and im trying not to blow my entire budget on the body repair. i came across https://www.millsupply.com/auto-body-ru ... 0-j20-j40/ and they have floor pans and bed deck panels for significantly less. the bed decks are 130 bucks compared to Bjs 700 dollars a side.. theres obviously a difference in quality here but i searched on the forums here and google for some kind of review with no luck. does anyone have any info on these guys? for 130 bucks im willing to take a gamble on them..
You are going to want to basically update the front axle to a D44HD instead of trying to adapt disc brakes to that closed knuckle axle. The front axle from a 74-79 J20 will work, or a 3/4 ton GM from around 74-86. I think in 80 or so GM switched to a 10B HD, but its the same from a strength perspective. However, neither axle will bolt in for you. You will need to weld spring perches to it. And you will need to find out what gears you have now, so that you can match them in the front. You most likely have 4.10s.keyappstate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:31 pmI will be converting to disk brakes on all four corners, and I’ll start looking around for power brake options. I’m assuming I can swap a booster in from another J series truck. I have already ordered a disk kit for the rear, just to be able to drive it around the yard. I’d like to find or fab a tcase e-brake setup as well. 4.09 will be the highest gears I’ve run in a long time believe it or not. Most of my trucks run 5.29s or 4.88s, BUT none of them are big green Sherman tanks ha.tgreese wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:49 am Oops - Raybestos, not Bendix.
According to the app info, that drum fits a bunch of Dodge/Fargo trucks too. If I owned this truck, I'd go ahead and do the brakes now and fit all new drums. I'd measure the old drums and keep them if they are turnable (less than 60 thou oversized.) This should prepare you for at least a couple of decades of old-truck operation. This truck should have 4.09 gears, and will sound very busy on the highway, I predict.
FLeetFox wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:10 pm You can swap the hubs on a D44F from 6 to 8 lugs easily. Or look for a j20 front axle. These are 8 bolt hubs for a D44 that where swapped onto a 6 lug J10 D44. We changed the gearing, it' not cheap. That closed knuckle d44 will not be a lot of fun. larger turning radius , like battleship large. I concur with Stuka, look for something later 20th century. Maybe call Watsons in the east end of the state. Bring a list if you go though, they have a ton of FSJ's. Good folks, Kenny and his Dad.
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Ford Axle won't work for you unless you also plan on switching to a driver drop transfer case. Your D20 is passenger side drop. Which is why I mentioned a GM axle.keyappstate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:34 pm
Not sure exactly what state to look in the east side of there bud. I already started peeling through pirate and a few other boards for the best suitable swaps. Looks like a lot of guys go with the d44hp from fords. Not a lot of j20s in my area. And by that I mean none. (Baton Rouge). I don’t really care what goes under there as long as I keep the same width and wheel lug pattern.
Stuka wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:49 pmFord Axle won't work for you unless you also plan on switching to a driver drop transfer case. Your D20 is passenger side drop. Which is why I mentioned a GM axle.keyappstate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:34 pm
Not sure exactly what state to look in the east side of there bud. I already started peeling through pirate and a few other boards for the best suitable swaps. Looks like a lot of guys go with the d44hp from fords. Not a lot of j20s in my area. And by that I mean none. (Baton Rouge). I don’t really care what goes under there as long as I keep the same width and wheel lug pattern.