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3 Link Waggy

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In my 77 Waggy I swaped a chevy 6.0L and some 2006 Ford Super Duty axles.
http://www.fsjnetwork.com/forum/viewtop ... =12&t=3987

The front d60 was setup from the factory with radius arms so I decided to use the same axle mounts but extend the radius arm back further.

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Re: 3 Link

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Ultimately they suck off road. Doesn't flex worth a crap. I've been wanting to fix it and now the time has come. Bought some 1.25" heim joints from http://www.4x4outlet.com. Got a good deal on them through the pirate4x4 vendor section.

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The plan is to use the existing stock axle mounts. Only reason I'm not going to cut the stock mounts off is due to the mounts by the diff. It's all one big piece of cast. If I cut the mounts off I don't have any axle tube to weld brackets too. Not comfortable with welding to cast. It should work pretty good this way.

In these pics you can see there's not much tube between the diff casting and the knuckle C.

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I made some plates to bolt to the stock brackets and bolt the hemis up.

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Here are some random pics of the joint and setup

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The mounting width of the stock mounts are about 1/2" wider than the joint mount width. I'll weld in some 1/4" spacers to make up the difference.

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Should finish up the bottom links tomorrow and work on the top link.
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Looking good can't wait to see it done
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Where are the upper arms mounting?


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Re: 3 Link Waggy

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Stuka wrote:Where are the upper arms mounting?


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I'll have to check space but more than likely it's gonna go on the passenger side and mount to the tranny cross member. I'm gonna finish the lowers and run the numbers for the upper link in the 3 link calculator.
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Looks good!

I just keep them flat, and if you can equal vertical separation to keep caster the same throughout travel. 8 inches or so separation of you can
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Re: 3 Link Waggy

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Worked on the 3 link today. Have it all tacked up. Still need to redo the track bar.

Drivers side full compression. 6.5" of up travel.
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Front view, full compression.
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Upper link on axle at full compression; looking front to rear.
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Upper link at cross member at full compression; looking front to rear.
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Passenger side full compression.
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Upper link looking from rear to front under cross member at full compression.
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Upper link looking from rear to front above cross member at full compression.
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Drives side full droop, passenger side full compression.
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Front view
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Upper link on axle looking front to rear. Drives side full droop, passenger side full compression.
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Passenger side full compression. Drivers side full droop.
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Re: 3 Link Waggy

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Hum, I'd never thought about making the lower link mounts tie into the factory radius arm mounts. I'm anxious to see how that works still having the bushings.
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Those who "build" suspensions are an impressive bunch!
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Looking great. Its gonna be a whole new beast on the trails.
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Very Impressive. Just goes to show that again, anything is possible if you put your mind to it.
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Re: 3 Link Waggy

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ElkyRacer wrote:Hum, I'd never thought about making the lower link mounts tie into the factory radius arm mounts. I'm anxious to see how that works still having the bushings.
They're pretty stiff bushings. Should be fine for now. Gonna wheel it like this for the up coming year. Going coil overs next year so I'll pull the axle and hard mount the links then.
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