External tire carriers for Wagoneers

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External tire carriers for Wagoneers

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Looking to see who all has built what as far as external rear tire carriers go on Wagoneers.

Has anybody successfully adapted an XJ/S10 Blazer or Scout 2 tire carrier over?

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Grand_Wag_85 wrote:Looking to see who all has built what as far as external rear tire carriers go on Wagoneers.

Has anybody successfully adapted an XJ/S10 Blazer or Scout 2 tire carrier over?

Thanks
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The ones that swing out from the side of the truck? The Wagoneer sheet metal is way too thin for that. Some FSJ's came with them and there were reinforcing brackets on the inside of the truck to try and distribute the load if I recall the pictures I saw on IFSJA properly. But they weren't very common and I wouldn't trust them with a larger than stock tire.
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Make your own bumper. As mentioned, the sheet metal is too thin. The factory swing out carriers had sheet metal that was designed for the load. I like the valley swing out carrier, but yes, it always felt a slight bit too flimsy when in the open position.
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Great minds think alike Jon!

Internal reinforcements would be a must was wondering how strong the old FSJ Valley carriers were/are. I had a factory one on an XJ and there were brackets inside the bumper and the body
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A true rear bumper with tire carrier and fuel can holders are in the eventual plans but since when have I ever followed thru on anything I've ever built? HA! Jeep still doesn't run :P

I've got an old bike carrier for the hitch might rig up something like this
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That would be nice as long as it had spring tension to assist in raising it back up again. Dead lifting that tire would get old REALLY fast.
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FSJ Guy wrote:That would be nice as long as it had spring tension to assist in raising it back up again. Dead lifting that tire would get old REALLY fast.
For sure.....But that's assuming you can get the back window down to get the tailgate open, right? :mrgreen:
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BlackBart and I have talked about this several times, we feel that the best way would be to build a bumper capable supporting a swing out tire carrier. My landcruiser had one that hung off the body the rattling as you went down the road would drive you insane!
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bigun wrote:BlackBart and I have talked about this several times, we feel that the best way would be to build a bumper capable supporting a swing out tire carrier. My landcruiser had one that hung off the body the rattling as you went down the road would drive you insane!
Keep me posted if BB comes up with anything.
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I was thinking of a bumper mounted one, not body mounted. I really would like one that could fit a 35" tire but not block the license plate or tail lights but I don't think that's possible.
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You might want to follow on some fab work going on in Tucson. Some of the folks from there that come to Ouray Invasions are pretty talented.

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fulsizjeep wrote:Some of the folks from there that come to Ouray Invasions are pretty talented.
That's no understatement. Didn't realize Rstep/Tad was up to anything like that lately.

Good looking swing out!
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Looking good, can't wait to see it on.

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Do I see the start of a jerry can holder?
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KJ Ryu wrote:Do I see the start of a jerry can holder?
You sure did :-bd
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Gumby wrote:
KJ Ryu wrote:Do I see the start of a jerry can holder?
You sure did :-bd
Absolutely keep us posted
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OOh very nice!
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Some recent Tucson work. :D
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Very nice! How about a side shot?
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The bumper and carrier I made

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