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Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:46 am
by weeegoneeer
Hey all!

Thinking about getting a holley sniper, and was wondering if any of you are running EGR with it? Any problems / stuff to look out for?

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:10 am
by Stuka
I guess it depends on how much swing the ECU has. The O2 sensor will detect the richer state when the EGR opens, which would then trigger the ECU to go leaner. As long as that falls in its window, it should be ok? But I do not have any first hand experience with it.

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:31 pm
by weeegoneeer
So, is EGR just not a thing with fuel injection? I could swear my 1st car ('84 Ford Tempo) had an EGR, and TBI. I like the idea of cooler temps in non-performance situations. But maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. About to order a manifold, and want to get the right one, which is why I'm asking.

Thanks all!

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:19 pm
by Stuka
Every EFI car has EGR. But in those vehicles the ECU typically controls the EGR too. In our Jeeps the EGR is controlled by vacuum. The ECU should be able to adjust for the change in mixture. Was hoping somebody else here would speak up about using it. But like I said, you should be fine. Worst case is you just don't run vacuum to it.

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:10 pm
by az chip
Stuka wrote:Every EFI car has EGR. But in those vehicles the ECU typically controls the EGR too. In our Jeeps the EGR is controlled by vacuum. The ECU should be able to adjust for the change in mixture. Was hoping somebody else here would speak up about using it. But like I said, you should be fine. Worst case is you just don't run vacuum to it.
I'll let you know soon. I have EGR on a Eddy intake with a Sniper system.

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:30 pm
by weeegoneeer
Emailed Holley tech support and got the following answer. I honestly thought EGR keeps combustion temps DOWN?

Anyway, guess the Sniper wasn't designed to run w/EGR.


Thanks for contacting Holley Tech Support.

The Sniper is not designed to work with any kind of EGR system or be emission compliant. If you don''t need EGR for emissions i would recommend taking it off, it doesn''t do the motor any good to have the hot exhaust gases going back through the intake.

If you have any further questions, we can continue this email, or you can give us a call in Holley Technical Support, 270-781-9741 and any one of our techs can help you.

Thanks for choosing Holley Performance Products,

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:22 am
by Stuka
Well, he is right that EGR routes exhaust through the intake. So that does heat the intake up. But it richens the mixture, which can help keep EGT's lower.

I get the feeling this guy is a lower tier support guy, and just knows the sniper isn't smog legal. I say give it a try. Worst case is you have to unplug the vacuum line and not use it.

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:09 pm
by weeegoneeer
az chip wrote:I'll let you know soon. I have EGR on a Eddy intake with a Sniper system.
AZ - Wondering if you've been able to try it out? Am thinking I have a few weeks before machining is done.

Thanks!

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:10 pm
by babywag
Stuka wrote:Well, he is right that EGR routes exhaust through the intake. So that does heat the intake up.
I get the feeling this guy is a lower tier support guy, and just knows the sniper isn't smog legal. I say give it a try. Worst case is you have to unplug the vacuum line and not use it.
Obviously tech not familiar w/AMC and the exhaust crossover either? That crossover in heads & intake heat crap out of the intake.

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:06 am
by az chip
weeegoneeer wrote:
az chip wrote:I'll let you know soon. I have EGR on a Eddy intake with a Sniper system.
AZ - Wondering if you've been able to try it out? Am thinking I have a few weeks before machining is done.

Thanks!
No. Working on Christmas. I work at fedex. I can tell you idle right now is an issue. I have fixed the large swing of AFR issues and high idle. After Christmas will be the testing/learning phase.

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:44 am
by weeegoneeer
Awesome - thanks for the update!

Re: Sniper / EGR?

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:02 pm
by weeegoneeer
Wound up just getting the no EGR intake - too many variables. Still curious how it works out for you AZ!