Not really sure what you are getting at here. Of course they sell vehicles with a warranty.
It is pretty simple, the sales guy at the stealership told me the JL's would not have a warranty because people "modify and abuse them" and that you would have to buy an extra warranty with lots of limitations on the modifications you could do (like lifts, axle gearing, etc). So, I told him: "well good luck selling any of these then". I have no doubt stealers are full of it. However, I have no doubt that Fiatsler would do it if they thought they could get away with it.seventynine wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:11 pmNot really sure what you are getting at here. Of course they sell vehicles with a warranty.
I doubt it is 100% right, sales staff are frequently wrong. It does strike me as strange that the guy was trying to sell me a vehicle he doesn't have in stock yet by telling me it doesn't have a warranty. We did get a BU for the wife to commute in and it has been ok. Not a fan of the 9 speed transmission, but the Renegade looks so much better than its competition at the time we bought. Really, the only other thing that is not an embarrassment to drive in its class is the new Bronco Sport.seventynine wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:12 pm Dealerships install lifts all the time. But…you may be right in some situations. I wouldn’t really expect to massively modify any vehicle and compete on the trail with bigger tires than the axles can handle etc…etc….it and expect the manufacturer to completely stand by their original warranty. Seems like common sense to me. With modifications and use…I think it’s pretty clear when you’ve left the plantation.
In my experience, the sales people at dealerships are terribly uninformed. They also come and go regularly, and have little motivation to help the customers. I expect they would repeat any hearsay that might benefit their position.
They are literally required by law to include a warranty.Pablo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:35 pm It is pretty simple, the sales guy at the stealership told me the JL's would not have a warranty because people "modify and abuse them" and that you would have to buy an extra warranty with lots of limitations on the modifications you could do (like lifts, axle gearing, etc). So, I told him: "well good luck selling any of these then". I have no doubt stealers are full of it. However, I have no doubt that Fiatsler would do it if they thought they could get away with it.
My experience isn't any different, except to add most are not very good people to begin with. There are exceptions, but those are exceptions.
Having had a modified CRD I am unfortunately very familiar with moss magnuson, lemon laws, and the inability of a dealer to want to support the vehicles they sell, even when stock. Let alone modified. After that experience, nothing they do could possibly surprise me.Stuka wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 10:52 am
They are literally required by law to include a warranty.
And the way it works with mods is the dealer has to prove the modification was the direct cause for the failure. So lets say you installed 40" tires, but your radio fails. They can't refuse warranty on the radio because of the tires. However, if an axle fails, they are certainly not going to cover the axle failure, because 40's are clearly too large for stock axles.
I will say some dealers just don't want to deal with modded vehicles. The one I have gone to really doesn't care about mods, unless the mods directly resulted in a failure. They will also obviously not cover aftermarket parts. If you regear, they obviously won't cover the gears if they fail.
If the dealer installs a Mopar lift with up to 35's, the warranty fully covers everything still. Which is why a lot of people opt for a Mopar lift, even if it isn't the best out there (though its pretty decent really).
Also, sales people are rarely car people. And often do not know anything about the vehicles they sell.