Vintage Air new Gen5-magnum

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Vintage Air new Gen5-magnum

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https://www.vintageair.com/new-gen5-magnum-system/

New version of the magnum series, gen 4 will be out of production soon, gen5 has a molded case with a block type expansion valve, bigger blower motor,about the same size so will fit out FSJ's, same controls as gen4,I have the gen5 in stock if you need one now.

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One wonders if it will fit in the same space as the IV. Looks the same other than the A/C outlets.

Will the new blower fit the IV?

Seem a little earlier for me to worry about it since mine isn't on the road yet.
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Yes, I noted "about the same size". So if one had built the IV into the dash with 1/4" clearance between the servo and the wiper linkage and nearly touching the firewall it would fit?
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SJTD wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:54 pm Yes, I noted "about the same size". So if one had built the IV into the dash with 1/4" clearance between the servo and the wiper linkage and nearly touching the firewall it would fit?
I saw the Gen 5 at Sema last November and was told size of evaporator would be the same as Gen 4, the blower motor used on the standard Gen 5 is the same as the old Gen 4, but Vintage Air is offering a "Super" Gen 5 which does have a bigger blower motor, at this time I don't have any detail on the "Super" other than the link supplied which show how much bigger the super blower is.

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Talked to my Vintage Air Rep yesterday about the size and difference between the old Gen 4 and new Gen 5, he is telling the two are close to the same size and you could use the Gen 4 mock up but the mounting brackets are totally different, so if you are building might want to take look at the new unit.
I have a Gen 5 in stock and could unbox it and take pictures if needed.

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Thanks for the additional info, no need to open it up for me. Like I said, haven't even gotten what I have running yet to see if it's adequate. Just my nature to be always looking at the newest and improvest. Another reason this thing isn't finished yet.
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SJTD wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 9:07 am Thanks for the additional info, no need to open it up for me. Like I said, haven't even gotten what I have running yet to see if it's adequate. Just my nature to be always looking at the newest and improvest. Another reason this thing isn't finished yet.
I can relate, took me and my son six years to build my J10.

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Just talked to my Vintage Air rep, the Gen 4 magnum is no longer available, and replaced by the Gen 5 Magnum, list price is $995.00 plus freight/tax and during the summer there is a 4-5 week lead time before they can ship.
The big difference between the 4 and 5 is how the 5 is mounted, if you are doing a clean firewall this could be an issue, other big change is the 5 has a block valve instead of expansion valve hopefully this will make running hoses thru the firewall easier.

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Was just looking at the AC options for my 1980 j10 and saw that you cannot buy the Gen4 kit. How exactly is the Gen5 mounted? I don't think having a clean firewall is something I would be worried about, but not sure I am tracking.

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Good Morning, Vintage Air doesn't make a kit for FSJ's, so most everyone has used a universal Gen IVMagnum and then added what ever vent and control package they felt like.
The Gen V is close enough to the Gen IV to still make this generally true, Gen V mounts differently and uses a block expansion, to see the details go to VA's website and enter part# 675100 here you can see the details you need to know.
For a 91 FSJ you can modify the original control head to work with the Gen V, I have pictures of how I did this to my 86 dashboard in my 79 J10.I have pictures of my control head if interested.
For dash vents the simple thing is to install a #492000-vua and paint to match.
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Ed, I'm at the point where I need to start buying parts for my vintage air install. Could you help me order/sell what I need? Gen v magnum possibly super magnum going in a 79 cherokee with a 5.3l ls.
1979 cherokee- bjs 6" lift, 37" tires, rear Dana 60, HD 44 front, custom bumpers.
Soon to be lm7/4l60e/np241c with sye

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No problem would be glad to help as much as I can, just send me details (i.e. pictures,year,engine etc) at edsunday@customautoair.com.
After making several hose kits for oem type installs would avoid the original style of condenser/drier the top line (discharge)is to close to hood latch and oem drier has no provision for switch port.

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