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Do you know if the quality is any good on these? Any idea of how the compare to BJ's 2" spring? They're $75 cheaper, per spring, than Alcans so it has me wondering...
1989 Grand Wagoneer - Rebuilt 360, 2" Alcans, 10" travel Gabriel Guadian shocks.
1996 Land Cruiser - 1HD-T Diesel, Gturbo (23psi), Wholesale Automatics 442f, F/R ARBs, 35" Duratracs, ARB Rear Bumper, OME 2" lift, home built sliders and aluminum belly skid
2000 Honda Civic - Integra GSR engine, transmission, shift linkage and axles, 200hp, 33 combined mpg
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 9 - 437hp/447ft-lb
I just installed a slightly used pair last Saturday.
They had been street driven and pulled from a rig that was rear ended and totaled by the ins company.
I got about 1.5" over my pretty flat stock springs.
Blake runs them and breaks them but he does wheel very hard.
I have known other FSJ folk that have run them with no issues.
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I ran a pair for 5 years and bent main leaves twice without ever breaking one. Then i limited the shackle so that it wouldnt bend the mains anymore. Just bought a new set i liked them so much. Flex pics with the new set below.
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I've broken 3 front springs and bent 2 more on the front of the Honcho in 5 years. I've also broken one GM 63" in the rear and compressed two more.
All SOA on a D60 and 42's being 'wheeled hard.
First broken spring was a BJ's offroad 2". Those lasted the longest. (BJ's now has a different spring vendor..)
second and third springs to break was the Rancho RS44044 like the OP listed. I'm now running on two bent RS44044 front springs and I need to buy two more.
I'm running my front springs 'reversed' so that I get that extra 2" of extended wheelbase and I think that is incorrect and causing much of my issue.
I need to pony up the $$$ (and spend lots of time shipping/returning mistakes) from Alcan spring. I know Jerry Cockran is running Alcan's SOA on a D60 and 42" pitbull and NOT breaking/bending his springs.
But in the end, if you are running SUA on a stock FSJ not being 'wheeled hard, then I bet those Rancho springs will last a loooong time.
Thanks for the pics, J20Brett! It looks like the Ranchos are flexing pretty well for you! Blake: You named the two options I'm looking at right now. 1: Get Ranchos and save a little money. 2: Get Alcans and never have to mess with my springs again. I've got Alcans on my Tacoma and (even though it's not as built as a lot of your rigs on here) my springs have been totally solid for 7 years of decently hard wheeling. That being said, the waggy is never going to be a rock crawler... it's just too nice. I just want to be able to get off the beaten path when curiosity gets the best of me.
So... I know that the 44044 are the front springs. Does Rancho offer a matching back spring for the Grand Wagoneer?
EDIT: I almost forgot to ask... how's the ride quality of the Ranchos? (I know that Alcans tend to ride nice and soft)
1989 Grand Wagoneer - Rebuilt 360, 2" Alcans, 10" travel Gabriel Guadian shocks.
1996 Land Cruiser - 1HD-T Diesel, Gturbo (23psi), Wholesale Automatics 442f, F/R ARBs, 35" Duratracs, ARB Rear Bumper, OME 2" lift, home built sliders and aluminum belly skid
2000 Honda Civic - Integra GSR engine, transmission, shift linkage and axles, 200hp, 33 combined mpg
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 9 - 437hp/447ft-lb
Stiffness wise, its hard to tell on mine since i am running a slider box instead of a shackle up front. But, my springs are new and not broken in so they are a bit stiff still. My old ones seemed just right with bilstein 5100 shocks.
Lumpskie wrote:Thanks for the reply, Tad. It sounds like they are a decent spring then. Would you mind posting up your impressions after you use them for a while?
I was pretty happy with them yesterday.
For sure they are not Alcan's, but for the price I think they are a decent spring.
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I think they flexed very well.
Keep in mind the ones I installed are slightly used (about 6K miles he said) so I would consider them broken in.
They may be slightly stiffer new.
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Do you guys have any suggestions for a rear spring pack to match the 44044? (I keep wondering if there is another Rancho spring that's not specifically made for the back of a wagoneer but has the same dimensions...)
1989 Grand Wagoneer - Rebuilt 360, 2" Alcans, 10" travel Gabriel Guadian shocks.
1996 Land Cruiser - 1HD-T Diesel, Gturbo (23psi), Wholesale Automatics 442f, F/R ARBs, 35" Duratracs, ARB Rear Bumper, OME 2" lift, home built sliders and aluminum belly skid
2000 Honda Civic - Integra GSR engine, transmission, shift linkage and axles, 200hp, 33 combined mpg
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 9 - 437hp/447ft-lb