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Need help for: T-case Identify and Trans/Axles and other?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoI0SCfUXv0


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The stuff you see under the Jeep is called cotton. We have trees here that put off a lot of that stuff and it is flammable. It should come off w/a pressure cleaner.

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T-case is a 219. Only case available that year as far as I know. It will also have a small round plate on the back located right about in the middle of the rear. Under all that cotton some place.

The front axle is a D44, and the rear axle is an AMC20, sometimes called an AMC23. While it uses the same ring and pinion as the AMC20 in a CJ, the tube are larger, and it has single piece shafts.
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Thanks,

Is the 219 a good case? I think someone said yes.

Also, how does the AMC23 hold up? You mentioned one piece axles?

Not sure about the tranny though.

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Rollbar wrote:Thanks,

Is the 219 a good case? I think someone said yes.

Also, how does the AMC23 hold up? You mentioned one piece axles?

Not sure about the tranny though.

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The CJ AMC20's used two piece shafts that were prone to failure. So you don't have to worry about that. The M23 in my J10 has held up fine over the years. No reason to change it out really unless you are going to something larger than a 35" tire.

The 219 is a fine case. Its only lacking feature is a 2wd mode.

Oh, the trans is a TF727. The guts are basic Chrysler parts, but the case is unique to AMC.
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Thank you for the help, I'll keep posting stuff.
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Nice find,crazy paint...
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Ok most of the smog stuff off.

MMOil sat in the cylinders over night.

Today I cranked it over to get most of the MMOil out of the cylinders.

Have oil pressure.

Getting ready to put three gallons of gas in the tank and fire her up.

Not 100% sure there is old gas in the tank but after 2.5 yrs + in the heat of NV I"m sure it evaporated.

Not sure if the tank leak has been fixed but will soon find out.


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OK got her running. The lifters had to fill up and the carb is leaking/needs to be rebuilt. Old gas in tank/added new gas to it.

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Fuel Sender: Do you have to drop the tank to replace it?

Where would one look to buy one?

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P.S. This is a pic of the front of the tank & I think it is the sender.

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If the tank on your '80 is like my 81, the sender is on the front of the tank. The tank can stay in the truck and your can get it out. Although dropping the tank in my '81 is 4 bolts and takes hardly any time at all.

Unfortunately I cannot see the photo you linked (Unless you had intended on posting a photo of a pink unicorn?)
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Hey, I think you need a washer fluid bottle. Just saying.

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Hard to make out, but I am pretty sure that is the sender unit with the fill tube next to it.
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If your tank is empty, or nearly empty, then it shouldn't be too hard to drop. That'll also give you a chance to examine fill tubes/hoses, the rubber hoses between the tank and steel lines, etc. It would also give you a chance to look the tank over real well for punctures, etc.

I'd say it would be worth the work/effort, just to get a look at the stuff the tank hides.
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I think we are gonna drop it.

I have to rebuild the carb and get a new sender so I might as well complete the fuel system w/hoses and a tank flush.

I did have a note that the tank leaked but couldn't find a receipt that it was fixed-been repaired or noted but not 100% sure. The vehicle originally came from Calif Dept of Game commission so they have all the receipts w/the vehicle.

Safety first right.

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You could be surprised on the carb.

Once fuel is back into it, and the gaskets have a chance to swell back as they were...

Let it soak, do not get in a hurry for the carb. It might be ok.
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whsii wrote:You could be surprised on the carb.

Once fuel is back into it, and the gaskets have a chance to swell back as they were...

Let it soak, do not get in a hurry for the carb. It might be ok.
Hum, I will look at again cause when I cranked it the second time I didn't see it dripping. Good point.

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whsii wrote:You could be surprised on the carb.

Once fuel is back into it, and the gaskets have a chance to swell back as they were...

Let it soak, do not get in a hurry for the carb. It might be ok.
U R right-no leaks.


Put some premium in the tank (4 gallons) and got her running again. She idled for a long time then when the (somewhat) high idle released she started to die. The temp was at normal and after normal temp the oil pressure was 38psi idle. 40 cold. No leaks at the carb so I guess the seals swelled after sitting for so many years. Maybe I need to adjust the carb and go from there. More continued-stay tuned.

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Good to see she is running :)
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