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Steering box j20?

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:37 pm
by lobie
Will a j20 steering box bolt into the stock place on a 79 Cherokee chief?

How much stronger/better is it?

Re: Steering box j20?

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:51 pm
by Stuka
I have not done it myself, but as I recall its a bolt in year for year. ie; Dont try to put a box from an 85 J20 into a 75 Cherokee/Waggy. Their mounting is a bit different, or pretty sure it was. I know the mounts between my '75 and '81 looked a lot different.

The J20 box is a bit larger. The output shaft is the same, but the internals are larger. But I have honestly never seen an FSJ box fail, so not sure how worthwhile it is.

Re: Steering box j20?

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:53 pm
by lobie
So if I decide to do hydro assist in the future it's probaly not worth the swap.

On the other hand......I have some slop in my stock box and planning on getting a reman and the price of the two is about the same.

Re: Steering box j20?

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:33 am
by HeavyIron
I put a J20 gear on my 70 wagoneer. Not sure what year it came from but the fittings were the flare style.
IIRC the only difference between the later years waggy steering gear and the 70s is the fittings. The later uses the metric o-ring style as opposed to the flare style. Oh and possible the number of mounting holes being either 3 or 4. But they should bolt up.
The only reason I put the 20 box on was that it came with a CJ5 I had bought and it wasn't leaking.

Re: Steering box j20?

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:29 am
by talntar
like said above the boxes are all the same except that in 80 or so they went to the o ring fittings so you would have to change hoses or fittings.

Re: Steering box j20?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:04 pm
by jaber
I have 3 J-20s here, 2-'75s and a '77, and the input shaft on all 3 are larger then all the other boxes in the yard. I tore a rag joint and had a heck of a time finding the one off the parts rig to swap it out with. No matter how hard I tried, I could not get the waggy or the J-10 joints to open enough to go on.

I dont know if anyone else has seen this, but it drove me nuts for a couple of days trying to fix it. X(

Re: Steering box j20?

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:21 am
by Tad
Did the J20 box swap a long time back.
3" vs 3.5" end cap but everything bolts right up.

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Didn't have any issues with the rag joint or spline count at the steering shaft.
Running an '85 GW column in the rig.

Re: Steering box j20?

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:23 am
by fulsizjeep
I put a 76 Cherokee steering column in our 77 J20 and had to swap the lower section of the shaft to fit the J20 steering box.

When I put the 79 J20 box on my 88 last year, it bolted right up to the GW steering shaft.

It is confusing as I have heard a mixture of stories on this as well.