Rear quarter rust.

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Rear quarter rust.

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Hey all,

Looking for information in the form videos or picture and text online on how to do a rear quarter panel replacement on my 73 Wagoneer. Both sides have been cut up to the frame line but the rust is at the wheel well inside and out. I am slowly trying to restore back to stock but I need help. I don't want to start cutting till I have a comprehensive step by step on what I'm doing. Any info is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Rear quarter rust.

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Baybywag has some very nice pics of this Wagoneer with the l/r quarter removed. You might try PM'ing him.

Are you sure that's a 73? If stock, those 6 lug axles would make it a 74+
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Here's what a naked wag looks like under the quarter skin. Any questions just ask…been there done that.

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If they were cut like what was done on mine...
Once I removed the quarter skin pretty much everything needed to be replaced, due to how they cut it, and the rust that developed.
Outer wheel houses, cargo floor drops, dogleg inner, etc.
LOTS OF WORK!
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Re: Rear quarter rust.

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Thanks kaisermanfor the heads up and Babywag for the pics and info. I knew it was going to be quite a bit of work so not surprised, after all it is a project, but I will need some sort of guidance. I'll take some more pics of all the damage I can find and let you all take a look and tell me what you think.
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I new the outside quarter was still available, where did you find the inner metal?
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Used is the only option for full panel replacement, or might get lucky and find some NOS.
Plenty of donors on west coast and SW states.

My wheel houses were toast, cut/mangled/rusted…would have required way too much work to save them.

You may be able to get away w/ lower half quarter patch panels, can get those new.
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Kaiserman wrote:Baybywag has some very nice pics of this Wagoneer with the l/r quarter removed. You might try PM'ing him.

Are you sure that's a 73? If stock, those 6 lug axles would make it a 74+
The axels may not be stock. I just purchased it and I'm still trying to make heads or tails of it. The paperwork and data plate say its a 73'.

This is what rhe rear axel looks like.
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Re: Rear quarter rust.

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Hey guys,

Here are some more pics of the rear quarters and the way they are cut and rusted. Let me know what you think. I've priced out outer skins at about 100 bucks per. Hope to keep it to that.

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Wow. Thats some creative use of foam fill. I'm not a body man by no means, but it looks like your gonna have your work cut out for you. ;)
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That appears to be a later frame??
'73 would have had a round rear crossmember.

Post a pic of the brake booster...
I'm pretty close to you. Down in Oceanside.
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Re: Rear quarter rust.

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babywag wrote:That appears to be a later frame??
'73 would have had a round rear crossmember.

Post a pic of the brake booster...
I'm pretty close to you. Down in Oceanside.
I love Oceanside man!! Closest surf spot to me!! :fsj:

Here's some pics of the booster and one of thendataplate. Let me know what you think. I did get a post about it saying that it's a 73' "classic". Don't know if that makes a difference.

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Well the body is a '73, but the frame is not '73, and axles are newer.
That is not a '73 brake booster either.
Can you get a pic of the front frame crossmember? one behind front bumper.
Look @ the driver's side frame rail ~ mid way (right where the driver's seat would be above), any numbers stamped in the side of the frame?
At any rate if done right they did you a favor, as the newer stuff is better for various reasons.

Someone probably swapped the body on a newer frame for whatever reason.
Likely the 6lug D44 axles vs. the stock D30/D44 5lug axles.

From what I can tell in your pictures the rust isn't as bad as mine was, but the quarter skins can hide a lot.
They chopped out quite a 'bit from the rear behind the wheels.

If you want it back to original, you're going to need some sheet metal from a donor.
Outer wheel houses or partials for patching, cargo floor drop panels, and of course quarter patch panels.
Not hard but VERY time consuming/tedious work due to how it's all assembled.

The VIN says it's a Wagoneer 4dr "Custom" and was originally equipped w/ a 360 4bbl engine w/ TH400 auto.
Holes in the carpet suggest it had/has a D20 transfer case?

I can PM you my cell# if you want to chat?
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Here go the pics of the front cross member and a couple front axel as well.

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I didn't see any numbers on the drivers side frame. Thanks for all the info man!! I'd totally like to get your info via pm. You seem to have a lot of usefull knowledge and are willing to share and that's pretty cool!!
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Looks like a '76-'78 frame from what I can see in pics.
Axles are probably same year range.

Beefy front bumper! Could be a '79 frame, but can't tell w/o seeing if they cut the front frame horns off.
In '79 the front crossmember had some "C"'s that extended past the front crossmember for the 1 piece bumper change.
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babywag wrote:Looks like a '76-'78 frame from what I can see in pics.
Axles are probably same year range.

Beefy front bumper! Could be a '79 frame, but can't tell w/o seeing if they cut the front frame horns off.
In '79 the front crossmember had some "C"'s that extended past the front crossmember for the 1 piece bumper change.
I was going to say the same thing.
Looks like the body is a later than 1974 as well?
Rear inner fender wells in the cargo area were textured metal in 73 & 74. :idea:
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Awesome info guys!! Especially Babywag!! Straight up guru!!!
I'm off to work till next Monday so I'll be away from the garage but will get right back to it.
I've got a few oil leaks to address and a carb rebuild, oh yes also California registration!! That should be fun seeing that I have a multi year 70's ride... :-bd
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JETWAG73 wrote: oh yes also California registration!! That should be fun seeing that I have a multi year 70's ride... :-bd
YOU HAVE A 1973! get it? ;)

We are just up the road from you in Wrightwood by the way.
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Dusty wrote:
JETWAG73 wrote: oh yes also California registration!! That should be fun seeing that I have a multi year 70's ride... :-bd
YOU HAVE A 1973! get it? ;)

We are just up the road from you in Wrightwood by the way.
YOU HAVE A 1973!!! x2
Nothing else just a simple 'ol 1973 Wagoneer.
Don't say anything about any changes to the vehicle!

Easy for title/reg. Go to AAA if you have a membership for the VIN verification paperwork and pay your fees = DONE.
Or, DMV make an appt. and same…it's a '73 mums the word about anything else.
All they need to see is the firewall plate and the door sticker.
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Most of the time people complain about the dspo (dip sh!t previous owner) but in your case it stands for dam smart previous owner. All the benefits of better axle & electronic ignition + no smog to deal with= cali score.
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Has factory sway bar mounts.
Frame is at least a '77 I would think.
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