Locker?

Fireman91186 · Post by **Fireman91186** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:12 pm

Now that I am planning on getting my Cherokee back on the road I want to put in a rear locker. Of course this all depends on me passing smog of course.
I was thinking a lunch box locker because of the price. I do not drive it that much on the street and I wont be doing any crazy wheeling with it either. I want to to go where I want and a locker would help greatly.
What are you guys running? Any good or bad stories?

Tad · Post by **Tad** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:05 pm

I've been welded out back since 2006.
It's cheap and awesome off-road.
Extra tire wear so I run a higher pressure on the street.
You get used to it pretty fast but I would not be happy on ice.
Wet slick parking lots are fun.
Does not bother me towing stuff but you learn a new wider style of turning.
Backing up with a trailer can be a PITA unless you are on dirt.

Fireman91186 · Post by **Fireman91186** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:47 pm

I thought about welding, but in the winter it is what we take to the snow so I am trying to stay away from that. I know that a lunch box locker will also have it's problems in the snow but I am hoping not as much.

Post by **Stuka** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:47 pm

Where do you live? (Should update your sig so we dont have to ask

)

I have had detroit lockers in two of my FSJ's, and we get snow and ice here. You really have to be aware that the locker is there. And this goes for any automatic locker. Including lunch box lockers.

If you really want a locker, and you dont want your snow driving to be impeded, you need to go with a selectable locker. Such as an ARB, OX, or Eaton.

Fireman91186 · Post by **Fireman91186** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:09 pm

I live here in central California but in the winter we like to go play in the snow a lot. I wish I could afford a selectable locker. I know that in the winter it will be tricky but I think I can get used to it. Especially considering the extra cost of a selectable locker.

Locked and Loaded · Post by **Locked and Loaded** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:37 pm

Detroit Truetrac Limited slip. It would be great for the type of wheeling you want to do. And it's what you want in the snow.

AwesomeJ10 · Post by **AwesomeJ10** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:42 pm

Stuka wrote:Where do you live? (Should update your sig so we dont have to ask )

I have had detroit lockers in two of my FSJ's, and we get snow and ice here. You really have to be aware that the locker is there. And this goes for any automatic locker. Including lunch box lockers.

If you really want a locker, and you dont want your snow driving to be impeded, you need to go with a selectable locker. Such as an ARB, OX, or Eaton.

X2

I'm running a detroit in the rear of the honcho and it can get a little hairy on the hwy in ice.

I have stock electric lockers in the 'cruiser and that really is the best way to go.

I recently swapped a 14 bolt into the rear of my waggy and it came from the junkyard with an aftermarket eaton LSD. It seems to completely transparent on the road. Ask me in a couple of weeks after driving to/from ouray....

Post by **Stuka** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:30 pm

Fireman91186 wrote:I live here in central California but in the winter we like to go play in the snow a lot. I wish I could afford a selectable locker. I know that in the winter it will be tricky but I think I can get used to it. Especially considering the extra cost of a selectable locker.

If its occasional snow driving, and you have decent tires (good AT), they are livable. More so if you have an automatic. Automatic lockers get more touchy with manuals.

If you do go with a lunch box locker. The Aussie and the Spartan are both pretty good lockers. I have installed several Aussies. Pretty easy to put in, and they are quieter and more durable than some other lunch box lockers.

If you ever head as far north as Sonora, hit me up.

Fireman91186 · Post by **Fireman91186** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:08 pm

I have a limited slip out back right now. It doesn't work all that good I think the clutches are out maybe.

What if I were to put the locker in the front and leave the limited slip in the rear?

AwesomeJ10 · Post by **AwesomeJ10** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:02 pm

Fireman91186 wrote:I have a limited slip out back right now. It doesn't work all that good I think the clutches are out maybe.

What if I were to put the locker in the front and leave the limited slip in the rear?

Good idea

Post by **Stuka** » Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:28 pm

Fireman91186 wrote:I have a limited slip out back right now. It doesn't work all that good I think the clutches are out maybe.

What if I were to put the locker in the front and leave the limited slip in the rear?

Fine if you don't need to use 4wd in the snow. Otherwise you cannot steer properly in the snow, specifically hard pack snow (like you see on the roads). Some people do the "only lock one hub" deal, but that will make it pull to one side. A rear locker is MUCH more livable in the snow than a front locker.

jamesdart · Post by **jamesdart** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:47 am

I went with the Yukon zip locker and really like it. Took me a year to justify buying it and I got a good deal on it. Some guys are saying the axle shafts don't hold up to well with an automatic locker or welded on the street on the semi floating 44.

Post by **Stuka** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:02 am

jamesdart wrote:I went with the Yukon zip locker and really like it. Took me a year to justify buying it and I got a good deal on it. Some guys are saying the axle shafts don't hold up to well with an automatic locker or welded on the street on the semi floating 44.

If you have a lot of weight in back on a regular basis, there is some truth to that. But its not because its semi float, its because the splines twist in most cases.

jamesdart · Post by **jamesdart** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:20 am

I thought I saw some that broke right at the flange

Post by **Stuka** » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:23 am

jamesdart wrote:I thought I saw some that broke right at the flange

I have seen some break there. But I am not sure if the locker was the cause, or if it was just a semi-float failure due to having a lot of weight on a semi-float axle. Most locker related breaks that I have personally seen have the splines twisted until the shaft broke right next to the locker.

Mr. Goatman · Post by **Mr. Goatman** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:26 pm

jamesdart wrote:I went with the Yukon zip locker and really like it. Took me a year to justify buying it and I got a good deal on it. Some guys are saying the axle shafts don't hold up to well with an automatic locker or welded on the street on the semi floating 44.

So, Where is the good deal at?

Kimbrough · Post by **Kimbrough** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:53 am

I'll throw my $.02 in for the Aussie locker. Easiest thing in the world to install and they work great.

El Jefe · Post by **El Jefe** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:56 am

I live in Northern Utah and I have a welded 14 bolt. The first winter I was kind of scared of it slipping everywhere. But it was surprisingly stable and controllable. One thing about driving a rig with welded spiders is it will always act the same no matter what. With open or even an automatic locker sometimes it changes its mind which wheel to give power too.

I also have a trac-loc in the front axle. Works good in the front, but I don't think it would be really good for a rear axle. Not positive enough.

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